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1968 Mint Set - Mint Error and Packaging Error In One Set.

OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 4, 2023 1:46PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Post your mint packaging errors or mint errors in sealed mint packaging if you gott'em.

Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,117 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used to have a 1994 set that had a coin (quarter?) with MD. Not very exciting. I think I paid an extra 25¢ for the set.

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    I have noticed that the coins in older mint sets are not in very good condition.. no full bands or steps. Mint employees must not have cared.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Modwriter said:
    I have noticed that the coins in older mint sets are not in very good condition.. no full bands or steps. Mint employees must not have cared.

    You have never seen my first-hand report on the Denver Mint cleaning coins for the 1981 Mint Sets in a cement mixer. I will type it out tomorrow.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    In 1981 I was one of the ANA Summer Seminar instructors taking my class through the Denver Mint, and one of the stops on the tour was the room in the basement where they were packaging Mint Set packets for the Denver coins plus the S-Mint SBA's.

    I wandered into an adjoining room, and found a large steel tank in the middle of the room and a small, hand-cranked cement mixer over in the corner. Next to the cement mixer were several large sacks of dried, crushed corn cobs.

    I asked one of the tour guides what they did in there, and he explained that because the planchets were sprayed with oil before striking to make them feed through the feed mechanism better, they first removed the oil by dumping bags of coin into steel baskets, shaking them up and down in the tank (which I later found out contained liquid freon), and then drying them by putting them in the cement mixer with a few scoops of the dried crushed corn cob and tumbling them!

    From there they went into the packaging room. Not sure how they removed the corn cob fragments.

    I published this information, and the Mint did not sell Mint Sets in 1982 and 1983.

    TD

    I'm just trying to picture that. Very interesting! 👍🏻

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would of been a first if some cob fragments were struck through errors.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Farmer_Bill said:
    My mother did this. Made the Coin World in 1968

    Very interesting. Thanks for posting. The half dollar was cut out before the dimes were noticed....OUCH!! Did your mom cut the half out?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Speaking of two dimes, here's my 56. You can see it's been shown to a lot of people over the years.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    In 1981 I was one of the ANA Summer Seminar instructors taking my class through the Denver Mint, and one of the stops on the tour was the room in the basement where they were packaging Mint Set packets for the Denver coins plus the S-Mint SBA's.

    I wandered into an adjoining room, and found a large steel tank in the middle of the room and a small, hand-cranked cement mixer over in the corner. Next to the cement mixer were several large sacks of dried, crushed corn cobs.

    I asked one of the tour guides what they did in there, and he explained that because the planchets were sprayed with oil before striking to make them feed through the feed mechanism better, they first removed the oil by dumping bags of coin into steel baskets, shaking them up and down in the tank (which I later found out contained liquid freon), and then drying them by putting them in the cement mixer with a few scoops of the dried crushed corn cob and tumbling them!

    From there they went into the packaging room. Not sure how they removed the corn cob fragments.

    I published this information, and the Mint did not sell Mint Sets in 1982 and 1983.

    TD

    Well that explains it :) this came straight from a mint set not sure what was going on with the surface until now. PCGS did not like it gave it a 65.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • @OAKSTAR said:

    @Farmer_Bill said:
    My mother did this. Made the Coin World in 1968

    Very interesting. Thanks for posting. The half dollar was cut out before the dimes were noticed....OUCH!! Did your mom cut the half out?

    Yes

  • ModwriterModwriter Posts: 330 ✭✭✭

    I just ordered the 1965, 1966 and 1967 mint sets from Littleton. I called them and asked if the sets come in OGP. She said yes. I did not know there was a coin shortage those years because the Kennedy half dollars were being hoarded.

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:

    Any idea what could have caused that damage? I have a quarter with a genuine clip in a Mint set that also shows that straight line cutting damage, I've been stumped how it could have happened.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq No I do not know what causes that I assumed it was a known error and thought I had seen it somewhere before.
    I wonder if it’s possible the crimping or sealing machine that seals the mint pack did it?

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq I was just going to ask the same question.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 7, 2023 10:19PM

    Looks like a spike through the head. Whatever cut into it the impact was greater where it met less resistance by the lack of metal nearest the rim and field. As the blade(?) Reached the higher mass of metal,the head, it reached more resistance, Hence the thinner depression. Just a guess. Others may follow and debunk my theory. Or if the cutter was angled the deeper cut would make sense as more pressure there than at the head area.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    @seanq No I do not know what causes that I assumed it was a known error and thought I had seen it somewhere before.
    I wonder if it’s possible the crimping or sealing machine that seals the mint pack did it?

    Is the cellophane damaged? Let's see the entire set.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 8, 2023 2:11AM

    This is damage from the cellophane crimping machine.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    This is damage from the cellophane crimping machine.

    Yeah I have several of those types and yes this cut looks entirely different.
    See if I can’t locate it this morning before I got a scurry off to work.
    And if not I’ll post it later today.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found it, and The packaging is definitely not damaged.


  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sean, how does the edge look where the cut is?

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Sean, how does the edge look where the cut is?

    Tom- It's not Sean's coin, it's @Coinscratch coin.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Sean, how does the edge look where the cut is?

    I'll image it later but if I remember correctly it looked like the two points were not exact contacts but next to each other like a scissor or cutters.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Sean, how does the edge look where the cut is?

    Here is the best I can do with shooting the edge of the coin without opening the pack.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. That's great. Definitely post-strike damage, but I have no idea what in the Mint could have caused that.

    Hypothetically the coin could have gotten jammed into some sort of machinery, like a coin counter, and pulled out with a pair of wire cutters, but there is no way that they would have had to clamp the coin that destructively. I don't think that the gate on a coin hopper could cause this much damage.

    It's a mystery, all right!

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