Information needed re ngc & pcgs holder weights. Question has been answered, thank you.

RobertScotLover

It most closely resembles the above but without the prongs.
Would any expert here know the weight of just the holder, the hole would fit a so-called dollar.
And the pcgs holder is the new prong holder and the size of the hole would support a so-called dollar.
Thanks

jmlanzaf

There's more variation in weight than you would think.

gumby1234

Curious as to why you would need the weights of the holders?

RobertScotLover

I have two similar die marriages of a so-called dollar, trying to make sure both are the same alloys. White metal weighs a lot less than silver. Unfortunately I have no scale and don't want to crack them out.

AUandAG

An XRF should tell if you can find one (coin shop?).

bob
vegas baby!

Maywood

Absent any help as outlined, just weigh a holder with a Morgan Dollar and subtract for the weight of the coin. You might have to do several, 5-10 coins, that would give you a reasonable average for both the coins and the holders. If the difference between white metal and silver is "a lot less" then an average of this sort should be good enough.

This all supposes that the SC$ you're talking about is 38mm.

gumby1234

@Maywood said:
Absent any help as outlined, just weigh a holder with a Morgan Dollar and subtract for the weight of the coin. You might have to do several, 5-10 coins, that would give you a reasonable average for both the coins and the holders. If the difference between white metal and silver is "a lot less" then an average of this sort should be good enough.

This all supposes that the SC$ you're talking about is 38mm.

OP doesn't have a scale.

Maywood

@gumby1234 said: OP doesn't have a scale.

Then it would be helpful if another member with a scale and the requisite coins did that for him. I would, but I have no encapsulated Dollars.

jmlanzaf

@gumby1234 said:

@Maywood said:
Absent any help as outlined, just weigh a holder with a Morgan Dollar and subtract for the weight of the coin. You might have to do several, 5-10 coins, that would give you a reasonable average for both the coins and the holders. If the difference between white metal and silver is "a lot less" then an average of this sort should be good enough.

This all supposes that the SC$ you're talking about is 38mm.

OP doesn't have a scale.

He must or the weight of an empty slab would be of no help.

jmlanzaf

@Maywood said:
@gumby1234 said: OP doesn't have a scale.

Then it would be helpful if another member with a scale and the requisite coins did that for him. I would, but I have no encapsulated Dollars.

How could someone else weigh his coins?

BStrauss3

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

jmlanzaf

@BStrauss3 said:

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

He must have one. He was going to weigh his coins in the slab.

RobertScotLover

@BStrauss3 said:

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

Hold on here, where do you come off that I have been told that is is a fool's errand as you say on many diff forums?
Don't bother giving advice when you make up stuff. This is not a big deal, you are ruining this forum by being so heavy handed and opinionated.
And I do not know how to tell you that I do not have a scale.
Thank you I will forget about this problem, too small to spend this much time on. over and out.

jmlanzaf

@RobertScotLover said:

@BStrauss3 said:

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

Hold on here, where do you come off that I have been told that is is a fool's errand as you say on many diff forums?
Don't bother giving advice when you make up stuff. This is not a big deal, you are ruining this forum by being so heavy handed and opinionated.
And I do not know how to tell you that I do not have a scale.
Thank you I will forget about this problem, too small to spend this much time on. over and out.

If you don't have a scale, how would you weigh the coins you have?

RobertScotLover

@jmlanzaf said:

@RobertScotLover said:

@BStrauss3 said:

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

Hold on here, where do you come off that I have been told that is is a fool's errand as you say on many diff forums?
Don't bother giving advice when you make up stuff. This is not a big deal, you are ruining this forum by being so heavy handed and opinionated.
And I do not know how to tell you that I do not have a scale.
Thank you I will forget about this problem, too small to spend this much time on. over and out.

If you don't have a scale, how would you weigh the coins you have?

By holding said 2 coins in my hands. I was looking for a dramatic diff not an exact measurement. Didn't realize that older collectors need to be so dam exact. Big diff bet white metal and silver.

jmlanzaf

@RobertScotLover said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@RobertScotLover said:

@BStrauss3 said:

@gumby1234 said:
OP doesn't have a scale.

Not accepting that. A reasonable one can be purchased for $10, if the difference is so great, then 0.1g accuracy is sufficient.

OP has also been told (on several different forums) that this is a fool's errand. There are variations in superficially similar generations of slabs. There is no guarantee that different suppliers didn't use different plastics over time. etc.

Hold on here, where do you come off that I have been told that is is a fool's errand as you say on many diff forums?
Don't bother giving advice when you make up stuff. This is not a big deal, you are ruining this forum by being so heavy handed and opinionated.
And I do not know how to tell you that I do not have a scale.
Thank you I will forget about this problem, too small to spend this much time on. over and out.

If you don't have a scale, how would you weigh the coins you have?

By holding said 2 coins in my hands. I was looking for a dramatic diff not an exact measurement. Didn't realize that older collectors need to be so dam exact. Big diff bet white metal and silver.

If you are just holding them in your hand, why would you need the actual mass of an empty holder?

We're discussing measurement theory in my gen chem class if you want to audit this week.