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1927 wheat penny error 3/2 1927 or 1937? Mint Error?

SpikeyAbeSpikeyAbe Posts: 13
edited August 30, 2023 8:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

please take a real good at the picture attached. The #2. is this a #2. is this a mint error?

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2023 8:45AM

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    You have posted in the Registry forum and may get a few unfriendly responses, Maybe @PCGS_Moderator can move this to the US Coin forum for you. ;)

    Your coin appears to have post mint damage. (PMD) :/

  • thank you so much! Mint Damaged? is that the same as mint error?

  • zrnumismaticszrnumismatics Posts: 112 ✭✭✭

    Welcome.
    It's just a hit from another coin that displaced the metal. It happened after it left the mint.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    Mint Damaged? is that the same as mint error?

    No, it was damaged after it left the mint and isn't any type of error.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've included the PCGS TrueView of your coin below. I'm not certain why you might think this has an error in the date when all it has is a ding on the base of the 2 in 1927.

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  • My bad I forgot to include this pic.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It doesn't help your case. It's still damaged.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,611 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    My bad I forgot to include this pic.

    If it were a 3/2 , (which it clearly isn’t) the base of the 2 would be much smaller, of a different shape and take up less space than in your picture. And part of the 3 wouldn’t be missing.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree, the number 2 took a little hit/bump and pushed the metal. It is not a 3 and the hit/bump to the digit happened after it left the mint in circulation and is not a mint error.

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    Are you listening? Your coin is damaged. That's it.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    No

    It is easy to see why you think it looks like a 3 but it's not what you think it is.
    It's not uncommon for new collectors to see something like this and not understand how a random hit or damage on a coin can look soo much like something else.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is nothing more than a damaged coin and in that condition would be worth very, very little ... far less than what it cost to have it slabbed.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe As a circulated and cleaned 1927 cent, your coin has practically no numismatic value - it never should have been submitted for grading in the first place. Hopefully, you will listen and learn from the advice being given so you can avoid more expensive mistakes in the future.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even if it was a 3 it wouldn’t be a mint error. It is damaged by something hitting it sometime during the last 85-95 years.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:
    @SpikeyAbe As a circulated and cleaned 1927 cent, your coin has practically no numismatic value - it never should have been submitted for grading in the first place. Hopefully, you will listen and learn from the advice being given so you can avoid more expensive mistakes in the future.

    I'm guessing the OP might be the one who submitted it. They didn't get the answer they wanted so they posted it here hoping for a different outcome.

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  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2023 12:24PM

    @SpikeyAbe — That is a coin destined to go in the road show folder—love to see it there.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    Why does "damaged 2" equal "counterfeit"?

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    Why does "damaged 2" equal "counterfeit"?

    Unfamiliarity with the nomenclature—damaged > altered > fake, ergo, counterfeit.

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2023 12:38PM

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    It would not be. It is just damage the coin received during circulation. For example, if one one puts a hole in a Lincoln cent, it is not an error, it is damage. The errors you may be looking for would be for differences in the original coin/die before it left the mint, not damage to the coin surface after it was struck and circulated in commerce.

    May I suggest looking up on Google mint errors and do some research in this area. You can also post pictures of coins you have here on the group and you will get an immediate answer.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fraz said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    if its not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit?

    Why does "damaged 2" equal "counterfeit"?

    Unfamiliarity with the nomenclature—damaged > altered > fake, ergo, counterfeit.

    Thanks. Perhaps. But I was interested in the OPs thinking here. His actual statement was " if it's not a 3 then wouldn't this be a counterfeit". Given that he's the only one who thinks it's a 3, it's an odd deduction.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • 😂 I’m guessing am the old man in the video

  • You might be right! I think another coin bumped into this one. I bumped it with another coin and this is what happened 👌

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe said:
    You might be right! I think another coin bumped into this one. I bumped it with another coin and this is what happened 👌

    We're definitely right.

  • TrampTramp Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cmerlo1 said:

    @IkesT said:
    @SpikeyAbe As a circulated and cleaned 1927 cent, your coin has practically no numismatic value - it never should have been submitted for grading in the first place. Hopefully, you will listen and learn from the advice being given so you can avoid more expensive mistakes in the future.

    I'm guessing the OP might be the one who submitted it. They didn't get the answer they wanted so they posted it here hoping for a different outcome.

    That's my thought too!

    No numismatic value. $40 coffin. Tuition will be expensive.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SpikeyAbe It's clear you don't believe us so why don't you tell us how this happened at the mint and when did it happen. Was it in 1927 or 1937 or maybe a different year? We would love for you to help educate us.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We could tell him "send it in" but he's already done that. :#:D

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    We could tell him "send it in" but he's already done that. :#:D

    Yeah, if anything, the OP had the nerve to send it in, so props to him. That's more than 99% of the corroded coin junk box microscope crowd will do. The problem is, he can't learn from it. $40 is a pretty cheap tuition.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:

    @JBK said:
    We could tell him "send it in" but he's already done that. :#:D

    Yeah, if anything, the OP had the nerve to send it in, so props to him. That's more than 99% of the corroded coin junk box microscope crowd will do. The problem is, he can't learn from it.

    That is the problem, exactly.

    $40 is a pretty cheap tuition.

    Yes, if you only have to pay it once...

  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess the OP doesn’t believe anyone here, he is now asking the same question on another Forum.
    ( Did receive the same answer though)
    Guess he can’t get over the fact he wasted his money getting this cent graded.

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