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Card Savers For Long Term Card Storage...

For years I've been storing my select ungraded high end ("mint", "gem-mint") HOF and star 80's baseball cards in card savers, without penny sleeve liners, in a climate controlled room. I've not seen significant issues. Do any board members have experience or evidence that this is harmful to the card stock (specifically surface gloss). I unfortunately remember screw down holders (trapping moisture &/or compressing corners) damaging the surface on some cards when removing the card after years of storage. Are penny sleeves necessary? What are actually Card Savers made of?

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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2023 9:11PM

    Ehh, I'd worry about "ink" attaching to the CS over time around the bottom edge of the card, as that end is where the pressure is. The climate controlled room might help. If they were in penny savers then I'd have no concern as it's a softer layer that won't adhere to the card as easily.

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    lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i always put cards in penny sleeves first then put them in card savers. most of my sets are in binders but i have all of my cards in penny sleeves and then i place them in the card sheets.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2023 4:06PM

    I just cannot see any logical reason not to use penny sleeves

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I just cannot see any logical reason not to use penny sleeves

    For sure. I've dropped plenty of cards to their ruin and it's (almost) never happened when I drop one in a PS. For me it's armor.

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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would highly recommend penny sleeves also. I had a STAR Company Nolan Ryan set and they stuck to the Card Savers that had no penny sleeves. I ran out and forget that I had put that set in the CS without the penny sleeves and all, but one card was stuck to the Card Savers.

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    SeaverfanSeaverfan Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    It would be great if one of the grading companies performed some sort of controlled study of wear measurement on a card (variety of cards- vintage and modern) & the effects of placing a card in/out of a penny sleeve, card saver, top loader, screw down etc, and made the results public. This would be useful information for all collectors. Has any one damaged a corner placing a card into a penny sleeve?

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    DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Seaverfan said:
    It would be great if one of the grading companies performed some sort of controlled study of wear measurement on a card (variety of cards- vintage and modern) & the effects of placing a card in/out of a penny sleeve, card saver, top loader, screw down etc, and made the results public. This would be useful information for all collectors. Has any one damaged a corner placing a card into a penny sleeve?

    That damage is no more likely than damaging a card when inserting in a CS, imo

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    SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Seaverfan said:
    It would be great if one of the grading companies performed some sort of controlled study of wear measurement on a card (variety of cards- vintage and modern) & the effects of placing a card in/out of a penny sleeve, card saver, top loader, screw down etc, and made the results public. This would be useful information for all collectors. Has any one damaged a corner placing a card into a penny sleeve?

    You can damage the bottom corners when putting a card in a penny sleeve.

    To prevent this, take a pocket knife or a razor blade, and cut about 1/4" - 1/2" down either side of the penny sleeve, then slide the card in sideways and then down; you won't damage the card.

    Steve

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    SeaverfanSeaverfan Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Yep, been doing that for years if using penny sleeve. I've gotten away from penny sleeves in Card Savers though even when grading (see below). Also, sometimes I feel I was jamming the sleeved card into the card saver and that may cause damage as well.

    Maybe sleeved hard top loaders are better for long term storage.

    I wonder how many cards are damaged going in and out of penny sleeves while at the grading companies. The pace at which they grade, perhaps two or three a minute, then a second grader repeating the same, and at that pace damage can more likely occur. I believe, the grading companies use the penny sleeves between graders and during the grading stages if the card came to them in a penny sleeve.

    Also, do folks think Card Savers warp cards if in long term storage as well?

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    AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Seaverfan said:
    It would be great if one of the grading companies performed some sort of controlled study of wear measurement on a card (variety of cards- vintage and modern) & the effects of placing a card in/out of a penny sleeve, card saver, top loader, screw down etc, and made the results public. This would be useful information for all collectors. Has any one damaged a corner placing a card into a penny sleeve?

    That damage is no more likely than damaging a card when inserting in a CS, imo

    Honestly I just frankly disagree, unless you snip the corner off of the penny sleeve. If someone sold penny sleeves with the corners pre-cut/notched they would take a lot of market share frankly.

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    RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 801 ✭✭✭✭

    @Ahmanfan said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Seaverfan said:
    It would be great if one of the grading companies performed some sort of controlled study of wear measurement on a card (variety of cards- vintage and modern) & the effects of placing a card in/out of a penny sleeve, card saver, top loader, screw down etc, and made the results public. This would be useful information for all collectors. Has any one damaged a corner placing a card into a penny sleeve?

    That damage is no more likely than damaging a card when inserting in a CS, imo

    Honestly I just frankly disagree, unless you snip the corner off of the penny sleeve. If someone sold penny sleeves with the corners pre-cut/notched they would take a lot of market share frankly.

    Someone does sell pre-cut corner penny sleeves.
    I don't really see a lot of people using them, though.

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    swish54swish54 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭✭

    I disagree with the snipping off of the corners. I just pinch the sleeve until it opens up, then slide card in with no issues. Also, I've had a few come with snipped corners from trades/purchases, and after the card is in there, that upper corner of the card is exposed because you cut off the corner of the sleeve. Seems counter-intuitive if it's done to protect the card going into the holder, but then leaves it exposed for storage.

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