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Guess the grade 1961 Carl Yastrzemski...

Guess the grade...will post grade after numerous responses...ENJOY!

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  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 9

  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭

    4

  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭

    I go with 8.5

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  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 2:30PM

    Vintage 9s r almost impossible these days…so taking that into account; I will lower my assessment to a PSA-8.

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  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 488 ✭✭✭

    PSA 7

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being that when people post these it's usually because they're disappointed, I'm going with 6.

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  • HarnessracingHarnessracing Posts: 317 ✭✭✭

    That’s a min 8 all day long

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Given the left edge I could see it getting an N-8, but it is holdered so I guess not.

  • MantleFan23MantleFan23 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    PSA 7.5

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    7 rounded upper right corner (more noticeable on the back upper left)

  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭

    7

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  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 3:56PM

    Yikes

    RonSportscards wins…

    mint_only_pls
  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 20, 2023 4:26PM

    @mintonlypls said:
    Yikes

    RonSportscards wins…

    The surface of the Yaz is noticeably worn just by eye, but the corners were better than my recent PSA4 '67 Rose which had better color and surface. So yeah, by comparison a 4 or 5 was kinda expected.
    With the recent grading of vintage, we all lose. Years ago the Yaz, like my Rose, is a 6, maybe 7.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s a beautiful 5 for sure. The front centering is so nice for a 61.

  • judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 989 ✭✭✭

    Badly ungraded, IMO. Should have been a 7 or 8. I was going to guess 8.

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  • 19591959 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭

    The bottom red is very light and looks faded, plus the black rim around the red full of dots and the right corner. Centering should have made it a 5.5 but its Yaz 2nd card and PSA is really tough on vintage. Would have been a 6.5
    last year or so.

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    grader of death is alive and well

  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 497 ✭✭✭

    Gorgeous 5. On the back by the border below the .377 BA shield box, not sure what that line is, but if on the card, that mat have hurt the grade.

  • 4for44for4 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    Vintage 9s r almost impossible these days…so taking that into account; I will lower my assessment to a PSA-8.

    That’s what I thought

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 21, 2023 4:30AM

    Crack it out and give it to a trusted hobby friend to resubmit

    I don't see a reason why that isn't a minimum 7, I would say 8 but not sure how much the slight fade on the red box matters

  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s ridiculous. I’d have said 8 too.

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  • JolleyWrencherJolleyWrencher Posts: 605 ✭✭✭

    I'll buy it for the last sold price of a PSA 5 on ebay :)

    I would love to see if TAG would grade this just for kicks if we paid them an extra $5. I want to see what the software would produce...but they likely don't have a database of data for performing the comparison.

    All the more reason I am holding off on submissions.

    If you look at the front and then look at the gaps of the card edge and holder then you can notice the left side appears to be cut at an angle slightly when compared to the right side. Can it affect the grading?

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the back middle under the comic. “League in 1959” under it I can see an indent like a finger nail?

  • MantleFan23MantleFan23 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    If there was a surface wrinkle, it would automatically reduce it to a 5.

  • @MantleFan23 said:
    If there was a surface wrinkle, it would automatically reduce it to a 5.

    not that i can see

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @handyman said:
    On the back middle under the comic. “League in 1959” under it I can see an indent like a finger nail?

    This card getting a PSA 5 grade is really disturbing. Maybe PSA needs to take a closer look at how tightly they have been grading the last 2 years.

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  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Get real PSA. That card is not a 5. I would've guessed a 7.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just a couple of thoughts...

    Is there any chance that this could be a "mechanical error"?

    The is term used on rare occasion when the intended grade is is somehow transposed and/or recorded incorrectly leading to a mistake. It really is "a thing" with coin grading//slabs- it does happen on rare occasions. Not sure if this has ever been an issue with cards but considering the volume graded, one simply cannot dismiss the possibility.

    As for the grade- 5 seems as if my prior comment just might have some validity.

    But lets just say it is not a mechanical error. We are seeing an excellent image and grading the image- not the card. So we are at a disadvantage. We cannot see if there is a level of surface wear that may have impacted the surfaces and color. While that is plausible, one would expect to see greater evidence of wear at the corners and elsewhere on the card. The centering is excellent for the issue- I doubt that point can even be in controversy. So how can we legitimately start a grading scale with a high of 10 and see a card like this end with a grade of 5?

    It seems this card was penalized more due to production issues such as the color that gives the impression that it is washed out. We have not had the opportunity to tilt and rotate the card under light to look for impaired gloss/wear or imperfections. But even if there is an slight indentation barely noticeable, would a card with these positive attributes warrant a punishing grade such as the one assigned?

    This simply is not right... a vintage card is clearly being held to an unjust and even impossible standard.

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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭✭

    Should be a 7. Nice card

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's an interesting thing happening on all these 'Guess the Grade' posts where everyone is vastly wrong, and then go back to search for any small, slight or insignificant defect that might justify the grade. I'd bet/guess I have vintage and modern 10s in my collection with a lot of the same.

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