Scammers need to learn about research...

telephoto1

Here's a RARE counterstamped Seated Lib. quarter... Battle of Shiloh...except the battle took place a year later...
Only $3500 though so at least it's a good deal!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394811309449

Manifest_Destiny

I saw that searching for seated quarters. Yeah, aside from the date being wrong, the engraving looks a little too perfect. Good catch!

burfle23

MFeld

How do you know the seller’s a “scammer”?

telephoto1

@MFeld said:
How do you know the seller’s a “scammer”?

I didn't necessarily call the seller a scammer- perhaps they are only guilty of ignorance...but it's reasonably safe to say that whomever it was that created the piece certainly had nefarious ideas in mind.

MFeld

@telephoto1 said:

@MFeld said:
How do you know the seller’s a “scammer”?

I didn't necessarily call the seller a scammer- perhaps they are only guilty of ignorance...but it's reasonably safe to say that whomever it was that created the piece certainly had nefarious ideas in mind.

At a minimum, you strongly implied that the seller’s a scammer. And there’s a good chance that he or she is isn’t one. At the same time, neither your thread title nor your post made any reference to the nefarious ideas of the person who created the piece.

telephoto1

@MFeld said:

@telephoto1 said:

@MFeld said:
How do you know the seller’s a “scammer”?

I didn't necessarily call the seller a scammer- perhaps they are only guilty of ignorance...but it's reasonably safe to say that whomever it was that created the piece certainly had nefarious ideas in mind.

At a minimum, you strongly implied that the seller’s a scammer. And there’s a good chance that he or she is isn’t one. At the same time, neither your thread title nor your post made any reference to the nefarious ideas of the person who created the piece.

I like your optimism, but at $3500 on an obviously fake counterstamp I'm going with the odds... If nothing else I'm sure you'd agree that at a bare minimum this seller is clueless.

RiveraFamilyCollect

eBay does let anyone list just about anything. They aren't required to be grounded in reality.

AUandAG

Can it not be an AU coin that was minted the year prior to the battle, pocket carried, and then stamped?
Why does the date on the coin have to be the same date as the battle? Was the 193rd Infantry there?
bob

Manifest_Destiny

@AUandAG said:
Can it not be an AU coin that was minted the year prior to the battle, pocket carried, and then stamped?
Why does the date on the coin have to be the same date as the battle? Was the 193rd Infantry there?
bob

The engraving should be the same date as the battle.

telephoto1

@AUandAG said:
Can it not be an AU coin that was minted the year prior to the battle, pocket carried, and then stamped?
Why does the date on the coin have to be the same date as the battle? Was the 193rd Infantry there?
bob

Maybe the guy was on vacation at Shiloh a year before the battle and stamped the date into the coin to commemorate his visit...

MFeld

@telephoto1 said:

@MFeld said:

@telephoto1 said:

@MFeld said:
How do you know the seller’s a “scammer”?

I didn't necessarily call the seller a scammer- perhaps they are only guilty of ignorance...but it's reasonably safe to say that whomever it was that created the piece certainly had nefarious ideas in mind.

At a minimum, you strongly implied that the seller’s a scammer. And there’s a good chance that he or she is isn’t one. At the same time, neither your thread title nor your post made any reference to the nefarious ideas of the person who created the piece.

I like your optimism, but at $3500 on an obviously fake counterstamp I'm going with the odds... If nothing else I'm sure you'd agree that at a bare minimum this seller is clueless.

Being clueless doesn’t amount to being a scammer. And the seller’s other listings don’t give the impression of the latter.
Remember:
“Posts must not contain libelous (accusatory, attacking) remarks concerning any individual, company, or other entity.”

Glen2022

What proof is there that this had anything to do with the battle? Anyone could have stamped the coin at anytime later, even three weeks ago.

burfle23

MrBear

He also says it’s graded by pcgs

telephoto1

@Glen2022 said:
What proof is there that this had anything to do with the battle? Anyone could have stamped the coin at anytime later, even three weeks ago.

Yeah, that's kinda the point. It's fairly obvious that the intent was to infer that this was somehow a Civil War period counterstamp commemorating the battle and sell it as a period c/s piece...but the person doing the stamping botched the date. There would be no reason to legitimately associate 1861 with Shiloh as nothing happened there until the following year. Anyone who knows CW memorabilia knows this is obviously not a period item insofar as the counterstamping is concerned.

streeter

I wouldn't call the seller a 'scammer'
I would call him a fiction writer. Casting his bait.

telephoto1

At least he was honest about pulling the price out of his, um, hat...

BStrauss3

Hanlon's Razor:

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

airplanenut

This reminds me of the time someone on eBay asked if a coin I was selling was from a specific shipwreck. A shipwreck that occurred decades before the coin in question was minted.

Glen2022

So was it?

JBK

And now we'll never know what this kerfuffle was all about since the listing is gone and no one posted all the photos here.