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Would Either of these packs possibly contain the Mantle? Asking for a family member who just found these when going through some old things in their house.

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  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I did not know that in 1952…Topps had series…let alone 5th/6th series. Is that true about series in 1952?

    mint_only_pls
  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trillman said:

    Would Either of these packs possibly contain the Mantle? Asking for a family member who just found these when going through some old things in their house.

    Only one way to find out for sure!

    Do it! Do it! >:)

    Mark

  • baz518baz518 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭✭

    52 was released in 6 series. Mantle is in 6th series, so.... 🤔

  • So he could be in the one on the right but not the one on the left correct?

  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good lord.

    Kiss me once, shame on you.
    Kiss me twice.....let's party.
  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2023 7:03PM

    most gai graded 1952 packs are/were series 1...that high series pack is SUPER rare and valuable...probably could fetch $100K

    i think the high series wrapper has a darker green section which can be seen from your photos. that left pack is probably series 1.

    right now a series 1 pack is up for sale
    its at $69K with 5 days left
    https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/unopened-packs-display-boxes/1952-topps-baseball-1st-series-5-cent-unopened-wax-pack-gai-ex-mt-65/a/50063-80041.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

    september 8th a similar high series pack will be up for auction
    https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball-cards/unopened-packs-display-boxes/1952-topps-baseball-5th-6th-series-five-cent-wax-pack-gai-ex-55/p/50066-68001.s?lotPosition=1&ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-SearchResults-120115

  • Thank you!

  • JolleyWrencherJolleyWrencher Posts: 605 ✭✭✭

    The off centered wrapper likely means the cards are all off centered and not worth as much. I'll give you $100k for both in cash today :)

  • JolleyWrencherJolleyWrencher Posts: 605 ✭✭✭

    I was joking about the off centering but not the offer.

  • They aren't mine to sell unfortunately. I was just trying to get some information on them to give to my family member. I wish they were mine.

  • JolleyWrencherJolleyWrencher Posts: 605 ✭✭✭

    Best of luck to your family. My Uncle told me 2 months ago of the only valuable family item which was literally given away by him during his anxiety/depression days to his coin guy in waterloo, Iowa. He said it was a coin from the colonial days worth approximately a million dollars 25 years ago and it was given to him by my grandfather. No idea how accurate the information is but my Uncle said he was ashamed of himself for over a decade afterwards and he never told his siblings. I'm lucky to be the last person to see my grandfather, well 10 minutes after he passed, but it was closure and appropriate given what was to happen later in life. Worth more than money to me.

    Probably all the more reason to get your valuables graded so it's easier for family to know what they've got like these packs. You did your family well by seeking out information from this stellar community.

  • tulsaboytulsaboy Posts: 285 ✭✭✭

    Those packs are potentially extremely valuable. You need to suggest to your friend that they strongly consider placing them in one of the major auction houses' sports card auctions that have substantial selections of unopened material. The high series pack, particularly, would be a highlight of any of those auctions. They should consider contacting one of the auction houses, but also potentially Steve Hart with Baseball Card Exchange. He will be able to help your friends facilitate a sale for the maximum amount possible.
    kevin

  • Would you say Heritage auctions would be the best?

    And how am I scamming or conning if I literally said they aren't mine. I'm not trying to sell anything and have said they aren't mine to sell. I'm trying to find out the best idea of how much they are worth and if they decide to sell them where to sell them.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2023 6:14PM

    First, I would have PSA encapsulate the packs. Then, Heritage Auctions is a well known auction house w/offices worldwide…and auctions off high valued items such as fine art, coins and sports cards, too.

    There are very few high series 1952 packs out there…most are 1st series packs. So…it is a very special pack! I would estimate its value could approach $250,000…and it’s hard to place a value on. I have no doubt your family is holding a six-figure 1952 “Mantle” series pack. Good luck…and please keep us updated. I will be following closely if auctioned off. For comparison purposes…Heritage Auction will be auctioning off a 1952 high series wax pack GAI-5.5 in an upcoming auction. Yours is in better condition being a GAI-7.

    However…I would still crossover to PSA…and considering its value, DELIVER THE PACK IN PERSON…even if you have to fly to PSA. Do not RISK the razor-like gum ripping the wrapper in transit!!!! It would depreciate the value of your pack.

    Could you provide a scan of the back of the “Mantle” pack showing the GAI serial number? GAI serial numbers beginning with 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx are very likely authentic while serial numbers beginning with 103xxxxx and 104xxxxx are very highly suspect. GAI serial numbers beginning with 102xxxxx are most probably authentic, but not as likely authentic as 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx.

    mint_only_pls
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    First, I would have PSA encapsulate the packs. Then, Heritage Auctions is a well known auction house w/offices worldwide…and auctions off high valued items such as fine art, coins and sports cards, too.

    There are very few high series 1952 packs out there…most are 1st series packs. So…it is a very special pack! I would estimate its value could approach $250,000…and it’s hard to place a value on. I have no doubt your family is holding a six-figure 1952 “Mantle” series pack. Good luck…and please keep us updated. I will be following closely if auctioned off. For comparison purposes…Heritage Auction will be auctioning off a 1952 high series wax pack GAI-5.5 in an upcoming auction. Yours is in better condition being a GAI-7.

    However…I would still crossover to PSA…and considering its value, DELIVER THE PACK IN PERSON…even if you have to fly to PSA. Do not RISK the razor-like gum ripping the wrapper in transit!!!! It would depreciate the value of your pack.

    Could you provide a scan of the back of the “Mantle” pack showing the GAI serial number? GAI serial numbers beginning with 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx are very likely authentic while serial numbers beginning with 103xxxxx and 104xxxxx are very highly suspect. GAI serial numbers beginning with 102xxxxx are most probably authentic, but not as likely authentic as 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx.

    The majority of GAI graded packs housed within the silver flip era (100XXX through 103XXX and first part of 104XXX) are authentic, including those bearing 103XXX cert numbers. You cannot judge a GAI pack simply based on the cert number from this era (aside from the bogus grocery cellos holdered during the 102XXX era) as I've also seen both good and bad packs spanning that entire run. Each pack, regardless of its holder, should be evaluated based on its own merits and attributes. Hopefully, the packs, if crossed to PSA, are also holdered without any damage, as the newer holders are tough on wax packs due to the well within the holder not being wide enough to accommodate the pack. This has been an ongoing issue many unopened collectors have been complaining about in recent months and one that PSA will hopefully resolve soon. The older holders (in my view, at least) were much better suited for wax pack holdering as the risk of gum pokes is essentially the same, anyway, with both holder designs.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • 4for44for4 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:

    @mintonlypls said:
    First, I would have PSA encapsulate the packs. Then, Heritage Auctions is a well known auction house w/offices worldwide…and auctions off high valued items such as fine art, coins and sports cards, too.

    There are very few high series 1952 packs out there…most are 1st series packs. So…it is a very special pack! I would estimate its value could approach $250,000…and it’s hard to place a value on. I have no doubt your family is holding a six-figure 1952 “Mantle” series pack. Good luck…and please keep us updated. I will be following closely if auctioned off. For comparison purposes…Heritage Auction will be auctioning off a 1952 high series wax pack GAI-5.5 in an upcoming auction. Yours is in better condition being a GAI-7.

    However…I would still crossover to PSA…and considering its value, DELIVER THE PACK IN PERSON…even if you have to fly to PSA. Do not RISK the razor-like gum ripping the wrapper in transit!!!! It would depreciate the value of your pack.

    Could you provide a scan of the back of the “Mantle” pack showing the GAI serial number? GAI serial numbers beginning with 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx are very likely authentic while serial numbers beginning with 103xxxxx and 104xxxxx are very highly suspect. GAI serial numbers beginning with 102xxxxx are most probably authentic, but not as likely authentic as 100xxxxx and 101xxxxx.

    The majority of GAI graded packs housed within the silver flip era (100XXX through 103XXX and first part of 104XXX) are authentic, including those bearing 103XXX cert numbers. You cannot judge a GAI pack simply based on the cert number from this era (aside from the bogus grocery cellos holdered during the 102XXX era) as I've also seen both good and bad packs spanning that entire run. Each pack, regardless of its holder, should be evaluated based on its own merits and attributes. Hopefully, the packs, if crossed to PSA, are also holdered without any damage, as the newer holders are tough on wax packs due to the well within the holder not being wide enough to accommodate the pack. This has been an ongoing issue many unopened collectors have been complaining about in recent months and one that PSA will hopefully resolve soon. The older holders (in my view, at least) were much better suited for wax pack holdering as the risk of gum pokes is essentially the same, anyway, with both holder designs.

    In other words, wait until PSA gets a better holder before sending it to them to authenticate.
    If the owner can wait that is.
    They may get much more for it that way.

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  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thx Grote15 for clarifying the GAI series #s...

    mint_only_pls
  • Thanks for the info. I'll get them to send me a picture of the back of them and post them once I receive.

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  • They also have this one.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 17, 2023 10:48AM

    Nice...earlier graded pack by GAI. It looks like the "Mantle RC" Series pack was purchased from Memory Lane.

    Here is the link to the Memory Lane Auction in December 2009 when this "Mantle RC" Series pack was sold...I was asleep at the wheel for not picking it up for $15k! One collector had a good Christmas that year!

    https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/bidplace?itemid=15927

    mint_only_pls
  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:

    @trillman said:

    Would Either of these packs possibly contain the Mantle? Asking for a family member who just found these when going through some old things in their house.

    Only one way to find out for sure!

    Do it! Do it! >:)

    Mark

    😎

  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trillman said:

    Would Either of these packs possibly contain the Mantle? Asking for a family member who just found these when going through some old things in their house.

    sell it get what you can for it.

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