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I think Northwestern might have a new coach this year after reading about this garbage

coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

A report from The Daily Northwestern includes details of alleged hazing within the Northwestern football program, and head coach Pat Fitzgerald was suspended for two weeks by the school Friday.

A former player told the outlet the incidents included acts of sexual misconduct, among other "absolutely egregious and vile and inhumane behavior."

He said players, mostly freshman, would be "dry-[humped]" by several upperclassmen who were dressed in "Purge-like" masks in a practice called "running." A player would be "ran" usually if he made mistakes at practice.
The player said if other team members clapped their hands above their heads near a player, that meant he had to be "ran." Fitzgerald denies knowing about the allegations, but the player says Fitzgerald made the signal during practices, encouraging the hazing to go on.
"It’s a shocking experience as a freshman to see your fellow freshman teammates get ran, but then you see everybody bystanding in the locker room," the player said. "It’s just a really abrasive and barbaric culture that has permeated throughout that program for years on end now.

"Everyone would just be looking at each other and be like, ‘Bro, Fitz knows about this,’ because you wouldn’t take that action otherwise," the player added. "Everyone joins in because he’s the head coach.

"It’s done under this smoke and mirror of ‘Oh, this is team bonding.' But, no, this is sexual abuse."

The player also said team members were forced to strip naked and perform various acts, including bear-crawling and slingshotting themselves across the floor with exercise bands. A freshman quarterback also had to take a snap from a freshman center while both were naked.
Another alleged incident included the "Gatorade shake challenge," where players would have to drink as many Gatorade shakes as possible in 10 minutes. The player said he's "never seen anyone not throw up" as a result.
Fitzgerald said he was "very disappointed" when he heard about the allegations.

"Northwestern football prides itself on producing not just athletes, but fine young men with character befitting the program and our university," he said. "We hold our student-athletes and our program to the highest standards; we will continue to work to exceed those standards moving forward."

"Northwestern Athletics prides itself on providing a world-class student-athlete experience, which includes a safe and respectful environment for all of our students, coaches and staff," athletic director Derrick Gragg said. "We respect the courage of the individuals who came forward to make us aware of the issue, and we vow to do our part to create a more positive environment moving forward.

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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ole Pat be looking at early retirement.

    Have a nice day
  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hey coolstanley, any idea on who the former player is?

    I'm just a little obsessed with the purple...




  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If anyone allows themselves to be subjected to sexually assaultive type hazing then they are morons, regardless if the HC knew about it or not

  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭

    I can't understand why any of the upperclassmen would participate or even be willing to stand by and watch. It is just weird unless both are into it (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    "Forcing" them to do five minutes at a comedy club on open mic night would probably be more terrifying (public speaking) and certainly more harmless.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    If anyone allows themselves to be subjected to sexually assaultive type hazing then they are morons, regardless if the HC knew about it or not

    Especially at a bad program like Northwestern.

    @streeter said:
    Ole Pat be looking at early retirement.

    He wont have a problem getting another job if they fire him

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @georgebailey2 said:
    I can't understand why any of the upperclassmen would participate or even be willing to stand by and watch. It is just weird unless both are into it (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    "Forcing" them to do five minutes at a comedy club on open mic night would probably be more terrifying (public speaking) and certainly more harmless.

    If it actually happened the dry humping and taking naked snaps is weird. The gatorade thing is common usually its a gallon of milk though and yes the whole point is to get them to puke. The superstars and big time recruits dont do it unless they want to. With the transfer portal now its very easy to say no and just leave if its an issue.

    Something was probably going on, but its also likely that its being overblown as well given that Northwestern isnt a sports school. The football team is good every now and then, but a lot of years its one of the worst power 5 programs in the country

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I mean what the heck happened to make them dress weird, shaking their eyebrows or easy to recover from stuff?

    Hazing within realistically harmless parameters can be fun and actually build comraderey, taking it to moronic levels just ruins it.

    I remember getting whipped with wet towels and peed on in the showers for my introduction to 10th grade football but that was back in 1985 when everything was ok and we handled things much better

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Things like making someone wear a little pink backpack to the bullpen that are harmless fun are a different story, but theres two things that are generally true with hazing. Its generally taken the most seriously by bad programs, and its generally back up upperclassman that are role players at best that take it the most seriously. Scenes, or Daniels, Ewers, Archy, Drake Maye etc theres no chance those guys got hazed hazed and may have not even had to do any of the harmless stuff. The stars generally stay away from it as well as they dont want to risk their pro careers.

    I'm still always skeptical that there arent exaggerations happening when people are reporting anonymously especially when they arent part of the program anymore. If it was so bad name names.

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was very exciting while it lasted...

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Northwestern has reportedly fired head football coach Pat Fitzgerald, sources with knowledge of the situation confirmed to ESPN's Pete Thamel and Adam Rittenberg on Monday

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He was the coach at Northwestern for a long time. I guess its time for a change.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I remember getting whipped with wet towels and peed on in the showers for my introduction to 10th grade football but that was back in 1985 when everything was ok and we handled things much better

    It's weird to think behavior like this was ever OK.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    I remember getting peed on in the showers 👀👀👀

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:

    I remember getting peed on in the showers 👀👀👀

    Yes i absolutely didn't stutter lol

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2023 9:47AM

    @Tabe said:

    @perkdog said:
    I remember getting whipped with wet towels and peed on in the showers for my introduction to 10th grade football but that was back in 1985 when everything was ok and we handled things much better

    It's weird to think behavior like this was ever OK.

    The coaching staff was a mix of pretending not to see it or knowing about it to straight up hiding the fact that they were laughing their but off.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2023 11:55AM

    I like the Northwestern programs- especially the 1946 and 1963. 1963 was Ara's last year at NU before being hired at ND. Northwestern enjoyed a brief time at the top of the AP poll under his time at NU. He basically got the job because NU beat ND 4 straight years.

    That 1963 cover was timely... reminds me of Bullwinkle.. "Hey Rocky... watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!" "Wrong Hat".

    And Minnesota had one of their legendary coaches at this time... Murray Warmath. The Gophers were quite tallented in the 1960-63 time frame.

    Taking a moment to look back 60 years seems better than the alternatives... no words

    Edited to add the following:

    There was another Legendary NU coach- Lynn "Pappy" Waldorf- he was there from 1935 through 1946- coached QB Great Otto Graham in the 1942-43 time frame. I thought he was gone before 1946-I am wrong as he took over at Cal in 1947. He had a Big 9 Conference championship at NU in 1936- He had incredible success at Cal winning multiple conference championships.

    So the 1946 NU program also happens to be Waldorf's last season at NU.

    Both Waldorf and Parseghian had incredible coaching careers

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  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take a look at that article - that dude messed up so bad he was investigated before his very first season even started. Good grief.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    Take a look at that article - that dude messed up so bad he was investigated before his very first season even started. Good grief.

    Some big doner is very likely applying pressure on a new school president to make changes and instead of paying the buyouts are using the school "journalists" who want to make a name for themselves. They will likely have to pay the buyouts anyways after legal battles to trying to negotiate it down to stay out of court

    If the football allegations were true the entire staff would have been fired. Its just one of those schools that its very easy to get someone fired just based off of allegations with little proof and would be the first time boosters pushed allegations trying to have people that have had terrible programs fired. Auburn boosters tried the same thing not to long ago.

    The baseball firing was an easy weird one, they havent been relevant at all in baseball since the Korean war. The B1G in general isnt relevant in baseball and theyre one of the worst programs.

    At this point you have to have basically no other options or be wildly over paid to take the jobs there.

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suspect Curtis MacDougal would be shocked and saddened... but not with the Northwestern School of Journalism.

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  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm slowly running out of Big 10 teams to watch... :(

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GroceryRackPack said:
    I'm slowly running out of Big 10 teams to watch... :(

    Theres going to be more of these stories especially at lower level programs like Minnesota. Journalists want to make a name for themselves and people are looking to get pay offs for it. This Minnesota story is a whole lot of nothing, oh no he punished players for messing up thats called sports. Toradol is standard in high level football. Its not great for you but it gets used a lot including in the NFL.

    Fortunately most schools arent going to care about such dumb complaints. Unfortunately with the payouts the Northwestern players are going to get youre going to see a lot more of these stories attempted to be made a thing

    Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 22, 2023 8:13PM

    @GroceryRackPack said:
    I'm slowly running out of Big 10 teams to watch... :(

    Stick with the Cats! They're playing well under their new head coach, Braun.

    By the way, I played three plays in one of those games for which you have a program.

    I was also blamed for the 69-0 fiasco at Michigan in 1975 because I visited a coin shop across the street from the motel the morning of the game. I was looking for a nice 1911-S Lincoln cent but found a half dozen altered dates (modified1941-S). It created quite a stir in the coin shop, with everyone wanting to see the altered dates. Then I caught some stink-eye from the coaches going back to the motel. They later blamed me for screwing up warm-ups, and said I was an example of being not ready to play. The only problem with all that is I played pretty well against a future all-Pro despite the score.

    If they wanted me to stay in the motel, then pick another motel because I cannot resist any coin shop directly across the street.

    One more "coin story" from that game. The Michigan and Visitor locker room doors are directly opposite of each other in the same "tunnel." They had steel doors and frames. I sized them up at one point and realized one could jam a nickel between the door and the stop and literally lock a team in their locker room. They would have to find some other way to get on the field, and that could get weird. What a stink that would have made on gameday.

    "Go Cats!"

    3 rim nicks away from Good
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