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Help with a US Colonial please

2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 8, 2023 7:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I sent this to our host several months ago and received this in return…i am not upset but perhaps a bit confused…
I have called customer service a couple of times and left my number for a call back early enough in the morning to expect a return call…and have not got a return call….I would like to know if they were unable to identify the coin or is the coin too far gone to holder (the submission was holder with details)
Etlib Connect i believe but perhaps our astute early copper collectors will be able to help? The 96 code is reserved for coins PCGS does not service…

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 8, 2023 11:21PM

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  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 571 ✭✭✭✭

    No idea why, plenty of detail there to identify. I'm sure I could ID the variety when I have a little more time.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does the code 96 designate? I'm guessing the obverse is too heavily corroded for it to be slabbed.

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  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 571 ✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't even call it corrosion, I think it a natural planchet issue with weak strike in that area. It is not at all uncommon on these. The grading services do sometimes treat them too much like more modern coins though. I have a small collection of these, I think close to 70 varieties. With over 350 known varieties though, that is hardly a drop in the bucket!

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    What does the code 96 designate? I'm guessing the obverse is too heavily corroded for it to be slabbed.

    It's in the OP: coins PCGS doesn't service

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2023 3:37AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:
    What does the code 96 designate? I'm guessing the obverse is too heavily corroded for it to be slabbed.

    It's in the OP: coins PCGS doesn't service

    I think I’ve seen many (details) graded coins of that type that were as, if not more corroded.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like a 1786Connecticut Draped Bust copper but don’t know which variety.
    I am in no way an expert on these.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is that someone just got lazy. I had a similar experience ATS, and had a positive outcome with some diligence. Keep at it.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:
    What does the code 96 designate? I'm guessing the obverse is too heavily corroded for it to be slabbed.

    It's in the OP: coins PCGS doesn't service

    I think I’ve seen many (details) graded coins of that type that were as, if not more corroded.

    I definitely have. My guess is that someone misidentified it at a glance. But only PCGS CS knows for sure. I was just answering the "96" question.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    Hi.

    Your coin is a 1787 Miller 16.5-n which is High R-5. There isn’t much premium if any in this grade. I grade it AG/G. Pleasing color and surfaces for the grade. I’m not sure why it didn’t grade and personally I wouldn’t bother sending it in.

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 571 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Colonialcoin, nice enough coin, but I wouldn't slab it. It never ceases to amaze me how reasonably you can still get a coin like this with this much history. You'd never recoup the grading costs, and if you wanted to sell, most collectors of these prefer them raw and would just break it out anyway.

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Colonialcoin @icutler
    Thank you so much! Truly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge…
    At this point i will follow your advice and not resubmit….
    Thanks again!

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    @Colonialcoin @icutler
    Thank you so much! Truly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge…
    At this point i will follow your advice and not resubmit….
    Thanks again!

    You’re welcome! Enjoy your coin and the history behind it.

  • jerseybenjerseyben Posts: 116 ✭✭✭

    This is just odd. Clearly a CT copper. Actually a decent example, just lower grade. No idea why they would send it back "not gradeable".

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