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Team Checklist - sheet cut info

Has PSA changed its stance for the sheet cut team checklist cards (years 75-82). I received an order of ~20 items. A few received the dreaded "min size" which is understandable if they don't measure properly. However, all of the others garnered the "Authentic" grade...none received a numeric grade. These are cards that would typically grade as 8, 9 or 10 but they all came back as Authentic. I've graded over 200 of these and until now, they have always received a numeric grade.



Thanks,

David (LD_Ferg)



1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06

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  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were those team checklist from back of wax wrapper mail-in offers ?

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldferg said:
    Has PSA changed its stance for the sheet cut team checklist cards (years 75-82). I received an order of ~20 items. A few received the dreaded "min size" which is understandable if they don't measure properly. However, all of the others garnered the "Authentic" grade...none received a numeric grade. These are cards that would typically grade as 8, 9 or 10 but they all came back as Authentic. I've graded over 200 of these and until now, they have always received a numeric grade.

    Sounds like you got someone unfamiliar with these cards.
    Doesn't surprise me with anything out of the ordinary.
    I would try to contact customer support and hopefully find someone willing to help.
    Good luck.
    I picked up a couple of sheets because I needed the Twins Team card. Unfortunately, it's right on a fold line. I got some better grades on some of the other teams but pretty tough to get a 9 or 10.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    Were those team checklist from back of wax wrapper mail-in offers ?

    Yes, they are the mail-in offers.



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @ldferg said:
    Has PSA changed its stance for the sheet cut team checklist cards (years 75-82). I received an order of ~20 items. A few received the dreaded "min size" which is understandable if they don't measure properly. However, all of the others garnered the "Authentic" grade...none received a numeric grade. These are cards that would typically grade as 8, 9 or 10 but they all came back as Authentic. I've graded over 200 of these and until now, they have always received a numeric grade.

    Sounds like you got someone unfamiliar with these cards.
    Doesn't surprise me with anything out of the ordinary.
    I would try to contact customer support and hopefully find someone willing to help.
    Good luck.
    I picked up a couple of sheets because I needed the Twins Team card. Unfortunately, it's right on a fold line. I got some better grades on some of the other teams but pretty tough to get a 9 or 10.

    I was lucky enough to land the Expos 10 and one of the Dodgers 10s on the 75 set. The ones coming in as "A" were from the 78 set. I've reached out to PSA. Will post on this thread when I receive a response.



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • mcolney1mcolney1 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭

    Just out of curiosity - I've been trying to track down - raw or graded - a 1975-76 Topps Basketball sheet cut Seattle Supersonics Team Checklist. Anyone have one they're willing to sell? Thanks, Tony

    Collecting Topps, Philadelphia and Kellogg's from 1964-1989
  • davin72davin72 Posts: 88 ✭✭✭

    I’m after a couple of the football ones if anyone has any. Looking mainly for the Steelers.

  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭

    No differentiation in White or Gray back on those 75's?

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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭

    @DavidPuddy said:
    No differentiation in White or Gray back on those 75's?

    I have some of the earlier without the white/gray and some of the newer that do.



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • I have been thinking the same about pcgs. Past year I’ve had about 6-8% of my coins come back as authentic no grade.
    Gold standard auctions said the grading houses all have hired new staff. Possibly just less experience all around?

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DavidPuddy said:
    No differentiation in White or Gray back on those 75's?

    Yes, but it has to be requested.
    In the Killebrew (and some other) Master set joth gray and white back is listed.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @DavidPuddy said:
    No differentiation in White or Gray back on those 75's?

    Yes, but it has to be requested.
    In the Killebrew (and some other) Master set joth gray and white back is listed.

    You don’t have to request this. When they first began grading these, there was no designation. Now, with the newer (at least since 2014) submissions, PSA designates gray/white.



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ldferg said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @DavidPuddy said:
    No differentiation in White or Gray back on those 75's?

    Yes, but it has to be requested.
    In the Killebrew (and some other) Master set joth gray and white back is listed.

    You don’t have to request this. When they first began grading these, there was no designation. Now, with the newer (at least since 2014) submissions, PSA designates gray/white.

    I had to request mine. After 2014.
    Neither was in the Killebrew set, I subbed the gray back, it came back without the gray designation. Then I found out about the white back and had to submit that and send the gray back in to be "fixed".
    I have submitted quite a few "new"/"oddball" items and it seems to cause some problems.
    PSA often is not aware of some of the obscure issues.

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
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