Mint set toning
Coinscratch
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Unless a mint set is punctured colors are usually pretty typical for their corresponding year to the point I could guess the year (for the moderns). But once the pack is torn anything goes.
I’ll start off with what I think is a typical toning for a 1975 pack nickel. Then another from a torn pack that toned purple.
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I'm familiar with many of the patterns and colors that appear on various US Mint Sets of the 1947-1958 time frame, but these newer sets are something I have never studied.
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And I have studied some of yours especially the one on your home page.
So I’m glad you chimed in now show us some of those beauts. Please.
I recently won this one and aside from being too beat up I absolutely love the toning on the Ike. I think they browned more than normal because they were actually unopened from the original shipping package. Interestingly when you order more than one in these packages the envelopes they come in do not have glue and therefore are actually never sealed individually.
From the same set (avatar) hoping this one gets past 66.
@Coinscratch if the package it was mailed in was never opened why does that brown tape go over 2 of the postmarks?
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Yeah I was concerned about that during the auction but I’m glad I didn’t let it deter me. Somebody Musta had a look see at some point.
@Gumby what do you think about these sellers pics and if you were looking for a 1982 Kennedy would you bid on these?
No Uncirculated sets were issued by the US Mint in 1982 (or 1983). These sets were privately assembled from regular issue coins. Unless special care was taken in selecting coins for packaging, these are just run-of-the-mill examples.
I agree and it makes the 82 and 83 kind of frustrating. You can easily see the Kennedys have some nice luster but these pictures look very blurry and pixelated, quite typical for trying to sell ugly coins.
1968-D MS64FS - first FS 68-D Jeff
Nice score - Did you find that one?
I did. It was quite a score. There is now a second FS which I found as well.
Now you're starting to piss me off
Before we get too far along I will say that I did win those 1982 sets and the reason I went ahead with the nuke (which wasn't even needed) is because the rest of the sellers stuff, model cars etc. also had the same terrible pixelated pics.
I'll post TVs here once available... I would post my own pics but yall guys would pick it apart like vultures fighting over the wishbone. Sure there's a few hits but the luster is the best I've seen and I've seen at least 20 packs now
I purchased 3000 1968 mint sets to find these - it was not easy. You can find the best of them in this set. https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/mint-sets/1968-mint-set/366
@Clackamas1 Very nice job on the birth set! I should make one as well, 67.
3,000 in one fell swoop? I'm approaching 500 over the course of 2 years and I try to be selective. I have plenty for sale
Yeah, some guy on ebay had them all in tubes, probably like 20 years ago. I just bought them all.
This is a pretty piece, and your main 1968 mint set is amazing. With that said, I struggle to see how this coin is considered to have 5 full steps with all of the hits/bridges.
My 75 atop missed it as it should but I have 2 more currently in the works a 75 D and a 76 hopefully both will catch FS.
Those pics from that seller are horrid and the coins probably are too> I would pass on those
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Precisely about the pics and why I had very little resistance
The actual coins are another story waiting for grades.
When you see it in hand it is more apparent. It does get weak but it is there, also the hits on the steps don't go all the way down.
It seems the nickels are the most susceptible.
It's not very dramatic but something is happening here.
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WOW! Now, that's some sick toning! What are you waiting for.
@OAKSTAR I agree that the nickels usually turn first.
This isn’t modern day mint set toning, but does it still count?
@jfriedm56 Nice looking toning and yes definitely counts. I was hoping to see more of these as they can be very colorful.
These don’t have the most attractive toning but another member purchased both. He probably saw an upgrade that I did not or just liked them.
These 2 are from one of those old cardboard mint set holders that I submitted to PCGS myself several years ago. I didn’t get trueviews, all I have is these iPhone pictures, I captured the color accurately but the rainbows go around the whole periphery and I couldn’t get that to show as good as in hand. The rainbows go around the periphery on the reverse on the first one and the obverse on the 2nd one.
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The '75 mint set has some of the most unique, attractive, and consistent toning of all the clad sets. I especially like the Denver dime and the blues it often acquires.
The Denver quarter is great and a real Gem. It has very strongly struck drum lines but if these are ever recognized it might not get the designation due to the small mark.
You suck. I can't even find a '68-S.
@cladking True the 75s come with some interesting looking toners typically blue or purple. I’m currently working on well basically all denominations but the Ikes as of late.
My first three Ikes are currently in the queue but they probably won’t get past 65. But I’m already amassing others that may be worth a ride, I just won’t wait for results I will for the first time overlap orders.
I told @wondercoin that I would find him the first ever 1976 type one MS 67 Ike. This is going to be a hold my beer moment
Oh my I have not heard the "you suck" since Russ was around. I miss that guy. yeah the 68-s is super hard as well. I have a 66FS that I found but I only made like 3 of them out of thousands of mint sets just for 1968.
Both of y’all suck! Like Rupert Salt opening thousands of Wonka bars to try to satisfy his daughter Veruca with a golden ticket.
I’m taking the cheer up Charlie approach opening just one 😊 here and there.
Ikes are really tough Gem.
The type I actually does come nice but so infrequently you need to look at several hundred sets to see one. And even this one might grade only MS-64.
I've got one somewhere in one of my boxes that's head and shoulders better than a Gem. I don't know if it will go 67 though. If it hasn't tarnished 66 is a shoe in.
I'm not sure what the mint did wrong with this issue but almost all examples display excessive planchet marking suggesting bad planchets or possibly weak strikes. There are so many things wrong with this issue that most examples have a few problems and deficiencies.
Russ was a force unto himself.
I see a lot of '68-S's that are almost FS and I might even have a FS. It's that close.
But I never see a '68-D that is even in the ball park.
I'm guessing your two FS '68 Denvers are from the same dies and were shipped to the same geographical area in mint sets.
The turtle usually wins the race but there is a tyranny of numbers finding Gems.
Of course, if I had a little more turtle in me I'd have looked more closely at every mint set I checked and maybe found things like '68-D FS nickels.
But if there were any MS-65 Ikes I'd have seen them. I looked most closely at the quarters.
Yes they are and I've seen some strong money for 66s especially the toners. I'll have to look a the pop reports but I bet there aren't many 67s?!
The two I know of were from different dies. I actually have a 6 step but it has a sizeable mark through the steps so it will never be FS. I also have an MS67 68-S full on 6 step with the same issue.
It was really an odd cacophony of events that led me to do that. I use to run a business, videoencoding.com. I actually wrote the VOD spec, at the time, So I worked from home and all I did was watch movies all day. I had to watch them for encoding issues, volume, sound cutting out video glitches, etc. I would just grade coins at the same time. I use to buy coins by the forklift and just search for the high grade ones. One day I ran into some guy on Ebay that had something like 5000 1968 mint sets, taken out and in rolls. 1968 was my birth year so I was interested. I bought a few rolls and was like WTF - this is legit, so I bought them all. I paid for all of them just in the 40% silver halves. This is like in 2001 so quite some time ago. My eyes can no longer do that kind of searching.
One of mine - I did not find this I had to buy it. This in an MS67
Here is a 66+
@clackamas I would’ve been scared that they all had been thoroughly searched. But like you said once you’d seen a few you knew it was legit.
I buy small lots from sellers that coins might be 2% of their offerings and avoiding what looks like a dealer or another searcher unloading. It may be a mistake as I’m sure there are dealers that don’t have time or don’t care to go through all of their sets.
Then there’s the sellers that have mostly all coins and not a lot of history which leads me to believe this could be a collection sell off.
Any pointers? I’m all ears.
Yes. That's another problem with both of these two coins; numerous gouges across the steps.
I have been out of the search for so long I don't know if any of my advice would be worth much. I use to make bank on buying bags of Sacagawea's from the mint and just cherry picking them. I would then just bring them to the bank keeping the super GEMS. I have a really nice Swarovski spotting scope and Swaro binos that I tell people cost me $7. I made some super coins and I do regret selling some of them but I needed the money. The thing that really hurts is when you see your coin get upgraded. That is a gut punch sometime. I don't know about you but I can recognize most of the coins I made.
Those are really nice. But where can you find these as their not in mint sets?
I really haven't had that problem yet that I'm aware of (a coin I sold that upgraded), although I have sold some that I wish I hadn't. It's pretty amazing how we can remember coins exactly how they were, even years later, like a fingerprint or an old girlfriend
I'm lost on the scope thing. A quick search on Swarovski scopes made me thirsty then I thought, who buys a 2,500 scope to look at coins. Then again I thought well, he can see the coins before he even gets outta the car
It was also the planchet flaws that could not get struck out. I swear the mint use to put plancets on a freeway for amonth before striking them
Typical of 1957 sets, PCGS MS 66 FBL
