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1925-D Buffalo - Latest Die State Ever?

ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was browsing the random PCGS images and came across this beauty:

Holy crap, how much do you downgrade for that? Technically it is probably MS66!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy Cow! What did it grade? I'd guess at least MS64.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭✭

    That is some serious die erosion. But if any coin were going to suffer from extreme die erosion, it would be a branch mint business strike from the 1920’s, like the coin above.

    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a coin that I would want.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    Not a coin that I would want.

    I would actually love a coin like this, but wouldn't want to pay any sort of premium for it. In fact, while I would love it, I would likely only buy it if it were discounted.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @golden said:
    Not a coin that I would want.

    I would actually love a coin like this, but wouldn't want to pay any sort of premium for it. In fact, while I would love it, I would likely only buy it if it were discounted.

    Actually I would too, it tells a story about how much the Denver mint used and overused the dies - I suspect dies were in short supply that year, which is also reflected in the low mintage.

    I found it in Coinfacts - cert # 44694596. Graded AU50 which surprises me - the coin looks mint state in the photo, despite the worn die.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Connecticoin said:

    @TomB said:

    @golden said:
    Not a coin that I would want.

    I would actually love a coin like this, but wouldn't want to pay any sort of premium for it. In fact, while I would love it, I would likely only buy it if it were discounted.

    Actually I would too, it tells a story about how much the Denver mint used and overused the dies - I suspect dies were in short supply that year, which is also reflected in the low mintage.

    I found it in Coinfacts - cert # 44694596. Graded AU50 which surprises me - the coin looks mint state in the photo, despite the worn die.

    The flatness in the hip area to the left of the tail gives it away. Strange how there is no discoloration in that area. That's what probably hides the wear.

    The coin you show is an extreme case of overused dies along with a lighter striking pressure.

    The Branch Mints didn't seem to care about quality in the mid-1920s. Denver may have run out of dies to complete a mintage could be one reason the coin looks that way.

    But it's a little strange that both the obverse and reverse are overused at the same time.

    It really isn't surprising (at least to me) that coins like this exist. I've seen more than a few turn up through the years.

    Disappointing for sure.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @golden said:
    Not a coin that I would want.

    I would actually love a coin like this, but wouldn't want to pay any sort of premium for it. In fact, while I would love it, I would likely only buy it if it were discounted.

    Very heavily discounted.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 651 ✭✭✭

    Very soft strike most likely due to set pressure on press to save the die, wear on the hip as noted, Nickels from the 20's are hard to come by well struck for any year in that period.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Bufffan said:
    Very soft strike most likely due to set pressure on press to save the die, wear on the hip as noted, Nickels from the 20's are hard to come by well struck for any year in that period.

    AMEN.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon

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