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Pricing on the 1891 Philadelphia Morgan $ MS65?

DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have come across an unexpected quirk in the 1891 Morgan pricing in MS65. While the MS64 gained 27% in value and the MS66 gained 50%, the MS65 has lost 68% over the last 21 years. What happened? Is there anybody out there that was in the hobby for 30+ years that might know the reason? Inquiring minds want to know.

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  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe an influx of submissions? Other than that I'm not too sure.

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Population shift, gradeflation in the 64-65 range, and/or the 65 having been overvalued.

  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that the ms64's are being heavily promoted today- moving them from $350-> $550 today.
    The ms65 took a really big hit some years ago when grey was 6k or so on both 1891 and 1892. Then cac price guide came out and CAC pieces were worth the $5-6k range while the non stickered kept dropping to eventually $2500 or so. Today they continue to fall.

    ms66's are top tier and just trade on their own market

    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As they say, sooner or later the market corrects itself. I saved some old greysheets, 15+ years old and after reading this post took at look. The 91P jumped 10X plus in price from 64 to 65. That's some hike for 1 grade point!
    Better date but never considered it extremely rare as noted in prices MS64 and below, my grade range :) . Highfill did note although a high mintage a tough date above 64 that was heavily bag-marked, had poor luster and weak strikes. Maybe folks don't want to pay for that 1 point on a coin that maybe is not that nice and borderline 64.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 64 to 65 big jump at the time when I bought this one limited me to the 64 grade.
    Finding a 91-P with such beautiful color also made it extra easy to pay a nice premium for.
    It has lost value since then, but I still haven't seen another with this much color.
    Still happy to have it today. :)




  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finding something that is unique and/or better then the normal/average coin out there is what makes collecting so interesting and exciting, esp when it fits your price range. I found this MS62 on EBAY & made sure I bot it. Little baggy but superior luster & strike. Rev is semi-PL.

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