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Which Mexican Philip V 1 Real Would You Rather Own and Why?

AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
edited June 14, 2023 10:38AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

MS62 PCGS 39486819

AU58 NGC 4246853-007

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2023 11:15AM

    Second one, it’s needle sharp, early issue, beautifully toned and quite attractive.

    The other one is meh for the grade, not a good strike, probably cleaned and not very nicely retoned. The luster looks muted. And what’s the red dot?

    Admittedly you can’t tell the luster of either one really.

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  • PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2nd one for me as well that red area on the 1st gets to my OCD.

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  • AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 65 ✭✭✭

    @SimonW said:

    ... And what’s the red dot?

    I think the red dot is an artifact of the image by Heritage as it is not on the TrueView

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The trueview is quite nice for the 1741, so maybe I’m being a little harsh. The strike still sucks. Also, the 36 is a top pop, the 41 is third in line. Not that it means much, but the 36 is probably a tougher coin. I’d have to look it up to verify.

    Let me know which you buy, I might be interested in the other one😜

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AngryDragon said:

    @SimonW said:

    ... And what’s the red dot?

    I think the red dot is an artifact of the image by Heritage as it is not on the TrueView

    Yeah, the trueview looks good, no dot

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  • AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 65 ✭✭✭

    @SimonW said:

    Let me know which you buy, I might be interested in the other one😜

    The reason I asked this question is because I own the AU58 and started bidding on the MS62 to upgrade. Having placed early bids on it I gave it a rest to let another hold the high bid. I realize that I would rather have a well struck coin in slightly circulated condition with full detail than a weakly struck mint state colorful one.

    Unfortunately, the scoring of coins in registry sets doesn't see it that way.

    The MS62 is scheduled for sale on June 22 should you wish to bid.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/mexico-philip-v-real-1741-mo-mf-ms62-pcgs-/a/3108-32481.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

  • PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 5, 2023 3:10PM

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    Collecting interests: Mexico & Peru early milled 1 reales + 1796-1891 US dimes

    Sports: NHL & NFL

    Thank you Lord for another beautiful day!!!

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You’re making the right choice I think @AngryDragon

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  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second coin has more eye appeal based on these photos. As a type collector, I would generally prefer it over the first. I can’t comment on the relative rarity of each, but that could factor in and potentially change my mind.

  • atomatom Posts: 428 ✭✭✭✭

    The (second) AU58 is more attractive than the MS62
    technical grade is off, go with eye-appeal

  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 15, 2023 8:11PM

    number two for me
    Here is a 63 and I still like your 58

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AngryDragon said:

    @SimonW said:

    Let me know which you buy, I might be interested in the other one😜

    The reason I asked this question is because I own the AU58 and started bidding on the MS62 to upgrade. Having placed early bids on it I gave it a rest to let another hold the high bid. I realize that I would rather have a well struck coin in slightly circulated condition with full detail than a weakly struck mint state colorful one.

    Unfortunately, the scoring of coins in registry sets doesn't see it that way.

    The MS62 is scheduled for sale on June 22 should you wish to bid.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/mexico-philip-v-real-1741-mo-mf-ms62-pcgs-/a/3108-32481.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Buy the coin, not the holder. You made the right call imo.

  • AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 65 ✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:

    >

    Here is a 63 and I still like your 58

    I have my eye on that one too. Different KM number though. Mushy devices but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush especially with so few coming to market.

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