@Walkerfan said:
You know it’s a nuke, when you’re the under bidder, and you have caused the winner to set a new price record! Lololol
That happened to me once but, as the winner and now 15-year price record-holder for the grade, I'm still Lololol.
I'm also the record holder and buried in another coins. It was costly tuition to learn that, at this stage in my collecting, to trust my own judgment about a coin (not TPGs or stickering companies) and avoid "Everyman" (AU58 + CAC) auctions.
It's all good.
I have 'helped' a few people set world record prices for Walkers that held up for many years. lol But, I have, also, been the 'winner', a time or two, when ridiculous prices were paid/realized. Most notably, my 1927 S NGC 64 and my 1917 S reverse PCGS 64 CAC. I had been looking for both, for a long time. The 1927-S looked sharper and smoother than MOST 65s, so that's how I justified it, since it is a strike and condition rarity. Luster happens to be very good, as well. This occurred in Jan. 2010 (Winter Fun). My ego simply would not let me back down, as I had the 'had to have it’ mindset/syndrome. LOL Afterwards, a good Walker friend told me that, if he had been present, at the auction, he would’ve tied both my hands down to prevent me from bidding! LOL!! He meant that in a good way, as he was trying to look out for my interests. The 1917 S Rev. 64 CAC is another story.......I just plain overpaid for that one. But, it is my suspicion that it has been submitted and tried (but failed) for the 65 grade. These, too, ARE TOUGH to find nice, as I looked for MANY years. This one is lustrous and smooth. I don’t know, if I’ll ever get unburied from either of those two, but it doesn’t matter, because you will always have winners and losers, when you sell. So, just as long as you make a NET profit, then that’s all that really matters. I AM going to attempt to upgrade the '27-S, someday. To this day, it remains one of the best that I've EVER seen. Besides, if you really like a coin and think it’s special, then I guess it’s OK to 'pay up', once in a while. Thanks for sharing your story. 😉
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
Many times I, as a collector, have wondered if an extra $100, $200, $400 would have won it. Especially if it is something really special (think old holder + gold cac on a non- Morgan / mercury dime series). When I win something “special” at a high price I wonder if I over-paid. You can’t go nuclear on everything. But these coins would be the last coins I ever sell (I’d sell my gold and silver bullion first, then nice but not special coins next). In hindsight, if a $1,000 price guide coin is only at $400 in the waning minutes of an auction, bidding $1,200 is not nuclear. If you want it, go heavy because another collector is going to snipe you heavy. When I go nuclear and win, I usually worry that I paid too much, but I usually love the coin. If I go nuclear and lose, I wonder whether I should have gone 1-2 increments higher. But then again, on to the next!
Dealers do a service by offering coins at a fixed price - usually the coins have been screened and are pretty nice and at a fair price for the quality. Sometimes they are expensive but if it’s the same coin you would go nuclear for in an auction, buy it from the dealer immediately! The key is deciding which coins are “special” and moving aggressively when you see them.
Good luck with your collection! Be patient but picky. Quality is often rare but seldom cheap.
I've had that happen to me as well. A strong bid being countered by a nuclear bid usually makes one disappointed at first, but then you realize that with their overpayment is not worth complaining over. A part of the coin game is finding underrated/undervalued coins at opportune times
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@johnnyb said:
Many times I, as a collector, have wondered if an extra $100, $200, $400 would have won it. Especially if it is something really special (think old holder + gold cac on a non- Morgan / mercury dime series). When I win something “special” at a high price I wonder if I over-paid. You can’t go nuclear on everything. But these coins would be the last coins I ever sell (I’d sell my gold and silver bullion first, then nice but not special coins next). In hindsight, if a $1,000 price guide coin is only at $400 in the waning minutes of an auction, bidding $1,200 is not nuclear. If you want it, go heavy because another collector is going to snipe you heavy. When I go nuclear and win, I usually worry that I paid too much, but I usually love the coin. If I go nuclear and lose, I wonder whether I should have gone 1-2 increments higher. But then again, on to the next!
Dealers do a service by offering coins at a fixed price - usually the coins have been screened and are pretty nice and at a fair price for the quality. Sometimes they are expensive but if it’s the same coin you would go nuclear for in an auction, buy it from the dealer immediately! The key is deciding which coins are “special” and moving aggressively when you see them.
Good luck with your collection! Be patient but picky. Quality is often rare but seldom cheap.
Absolutely! And well stated!!
A very famous Walker collector once told me that to build the kind of set that you want to; you're going to HAVE to pay up!! Also, same Walker friend and I have agreed that you'll almost never regret stepping up to buy a nice piece but you will almost ALWAYS regret the 'special' one that got away. Thankfully, I have had VERY few of the latter, because I was almost NEVER afraid to pull the trigger, on a nice coin, when given the opportunity.
My Walker set was a lifelong and long term ambition, so if I was going to do it; I was going to do it RIGHT!! Because, the way that I look at it....My set is part of my legacy.....It is important to me, and I'm only going to fill each slot ONCE. So, when I do, it will be with a coin that people will not soon forget, because of it's quality, it will be remembered.....
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
A couple months ago I was rather enamored by a coin in a legend regency auction. It had a cool pedigree, and was really attractive for the grade. The coin sold for $4500 on a different auction six months prior, and I really wanted it so I placed my “nuke bid” for $5500 and was promptly outbid by another.
I had already fixated on this coin for a while, and envisioned it among my collection. Looking back, I had developed an emotional attachment to this coin, and when my ego kicked in and I bumped my bid past $6000. I was outbid again, and the coin sold for close to $6500 with the juice, Almost a 50% increase from a well publicized auction just 6 months prior.
I count my blessings that the winning bidder saved me from my own clouded judgement. At CSNS, was lucky to find a slightly better date, in the same grade with a cac sticker for about HALF of the cost that the first coin realized (albeit in an NGC holder, but a gorgeous coin nonetheless). The way I look at it, the first coin was just not meant for me.
On the other hand the probable consignee did well ...that piece sold in Aug 2021 at Stacks for 875$. When I think through pricing ...I have to ask my self - would I have paid more? Would you have wanted that piece for at least 1 increment higher (~1600 or $1700) (as that piece sold $1375 and with GC fee's $1546)
There were some 50 pieces in the XF - AU range auctioned since Aug 2016 (that piece appears to be the the 1 CAC sticker piece - if the PCGS auction archives filter correctly ... so keep an eye out.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Mind sharing a link to your set?
Thanks, I'd love to look at it
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Mind sharing a link to your set?
Thanks, I'd love to look at it
If you go ATS (NGC), I am #7 in the WLH Full Set Category.
I am impossible to miss.
Thanks, for your interest.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Mind sharing a link to your set?
Thanks, I'd love to look at it
If you go ATS (NGC), I am #7 in the WLH Full Set Category.
I am impossible to miss.
Thanks, for your interest.
Stunning...............
I wonder if we ever crossed paths back in the 2000s when I was doing my set
Thanks for sharing!
Decades ago, I bid on a unique National Bank note from my home state. I thought I had put in a nuclear bid. I was only the fourth highest bidder. I was very, very disappointed!
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Mind sharing a link to your set?
Thanks, I'd love to look at it
If you go ATS (NGC), I am #7 in the WLH Full Set Category.
I am impossible to miss.
Thanks, for your interest.
Stunning...............
I wonder if we ever crossed paths back in the 2000s when I was doing my set
Thanks for sharing!
Thank You
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
Thank you everyone for such great comments, thoughts, and feedback. I just need to remember that (especially with a Type set) I should expect to see many SLD examples o that are both stunning and within my price range.
I’ll be sure to post my first SLD on here when I’m able to add the first of the two needed for my Type Set.
@golden said:
Decades ago, I bid on a unique National Bank note from my home state. I thought I had put in a nuclear bid. I was only the fourth highest bidder. I was very, very disappointed!
If the item is unique, is there such a thing as a nuclear bid? Seems like sky’s the limit approach could be used
@TheCuyunaCollection said:
Thank you everyone for such great comments, thoughts, and feedback. I just need to remember that (especially with a Type set) I should expect to see many SLD examples o that are both stunning and within my price range.
I’ll be sure to post my first SLD on here when I’m able to add the first of the two needed for my Type Set.
PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE
Whether you find one tomorrow or a year from now buy one that you really like and don’t compromise.
@skier07 said:
Hammer price was $1375. Regardless of the definition of a nuclear bid the OP’s final bid was not nuclear. 1847 is a relatively “common” date for SLD’s and the GC coin had funky obverse toning. With patience you should be able to find a nice one.
I was interested in this coin too and it would have been my first SLD purchase. The sticker boosted my confidence, and I liked the overall look, but I didn't understand the two brighter areas on the right of Liberty. I figured they would only bother me so I didn't bid. Any ideas what's going on there?
@planetsteve said:
I was interested in this coin too and it would have been my first SLD purchase. The sticker boosted my confidence, and I liked the overall look, but I didn't understand the two brighter areas on the right of Liberty. I figured they would only bother me so I didn't bid. Any ideas what's going on there?
I have no where near the level of experience that some other members have, so feel free if anyone wants to correct my opinion, but I would say pvc contamination.
I was going to say the same. The spot after the "7" in the date and around Liberty's foot looks like PVC remnants after it has sat for too long before removal.
@planetsteve said:
I was interested in this coin too and it would have been my first SLD purchase. The sticker boosted my confidence, and I liked the overall look, but I didn't understand the two brighter areas on the right of Liberty. I figured they would only bother me so I didn't bid. Any ideas what's going on there?
I have no where near the level of experience that some other members have, so feel free if anyone wants to correct my opinion, but I would say pvc contamination.
Something is going on where the “spots” are and also perhaps to the left of Ms. Liberty. I don’t know what caused them but they’re not helping the appearance of the coin. A sticker is no guarantee that a coin has all the bells and whistles.
I vastly prefer the Legend/Heritage/others model where everyone always has a chance to respond to any bid, no matter how nuclear. I think it's best for consigners and best for those who really want a coin, not so good for bargain hunters.
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
@hfjacinto said:
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
@hfjacinto said:
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
How is that "nuclear "?
Maybe it's a Chernobyl kind of thing.
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@hfjacinto said:
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
@skier07 said:
Something is going on where the “spots” are and also perhaps to the left of Ms. Liberty. I don’t know what caused them but they’re not helping the appearance of the coin. A sticker is no guarantee that a coin has all the bells and whistles.
Looks like attempts at removal of something imo, leaving a clean spot behind
@hfjacinto said:
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
Wow! That's sort of the opposite of my experience with the Middle Date LCs I was bidding on last summer. I was bidding on raw coins from a higher end set and they were bringing as much as 50% or more over price guide at the time. I was the 3rd or 4th highest bidder for a few coins... flashforward a year and a lot of the price guides are now higher reflecting an upturn in that market. The two pieces that I actually won will likely get sent to our hosts at some point...
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
@lkenefic I have paid well over price guide for my Middle Dates PCGS G06 set. An 1848 n-27 LC in PCGS MS62 just had a price guide price bump...funny thing was it was because of my winning "nuclear" bid at DLRC which the price guide approved of. Made me feel good!
Since most of the coins I buy (none US) haven't sold before or recently whether in comparable quality or otherwise, I don't know what qualifies as "nuclear" other than a price I'd never pay.
I don't think there is a single coin I'd go "nuclear" to buy, but certainly not one I consider to be of "material" value. It's not that important to me. Most I have ever paid is about $3000 and I do buy more $1000+ coins now but wouldn't go "nuclear" above this price level. Big difference doing this chasing a $100 coin versus one worth multiple thousands, or more.
I'd also never do it with any coin where a roughly comparable example is available. I recently bought a PCGS VF-30 in my series for $1000. Concurrently, a multi-coin lot had the same one but not as nice which ended up selling for about $500. This is very unusual though, as these happened to be the two nicest (of the very few) I have ever seen. I went ahead and bought the TPG coin but only because the seller cut their asking price noticeably.
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I have 'helped' a few people set world record prices for Walkers that held up for many years. lol But, I have, also, been the 'winner', a time or two, when ridiculous prices were paid/realized. Most notably, my 1927 S NGC 64 and my 1917 S reverse PCGS 64 CAC. I had been looking for both, for a long time. The 1927-S looked sharper and smoother than MOST 65s, so that's how I justified it, since it is a strike and condition rarity. Luster happens to be very good, as well. This occurred in Jan. 2010 (Winter Fun). My ego simply would not let me back down, as I had the 'had to have it’ mindset/syndrome. LOL Afterwards, a good Walker friend told me that, if he had been present, at the auction, he would’ve tied both my hands down to prevent me from bidding! LOL!! He meant that in a good way, as he was trying to look out for my interests. The 1917 S Rev. 64 CAC is another story.......I just plain overpaid for that one. But, it is my suspicion that it has been submitted and tried (but failed) for the 65 grade. These, too, ARE TOUGH to find nice, as I looked for MANY years. This one is lustrous and smooth. I don’t know, if I’ll ever get unburied from either of those two, but it doesn’t matter, because you will always have winners and losers, when you sell. So, just as long as you make a NET profit, then that’s all that really matters. I AM going to attempt to upgrade the '27-S, someday. To this day, it remains one of the best that I've EVER seen. Besides, if you really like a coin and think it’s special, then I guess it’s OK to 'pay up', once in a while. Thanks for sharing your story. 😉
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
There will be another come along, as already said the 47 is not super rare. Personally I like my P53 CAC much better than the one you lost out on.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Here’s my 1847 that I won ~1 year ago on GC. When the coin is tilted a fluorescent blue/green color radiates from the periphery.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Many times I, as a collector, have wondered if an extra $100, $200, $400 would have won it. Especially if it is something really special (think old holder + gold cac on a non- Morgan / mercury dime series). When I win something “special” at a high price I wonder if I over-paid. You can’t go nuclear on everything. But these coins would be the last coins I ever sell (I’d sell my gold and silver bullion first, then nice but not special coins next). In hindsight, if a $1,000 price guide coin is only at $400 in the waning minutes of an auction, bidding $1,200 is not nuclear. If you want it, go heavy because another collector is going to snipe you heavy. When I go nuclear and win, I usually worry that I paid too much, but I usually love the coin. If I go nuclear and lose, I wonder whether I should have gone 1-2 increments higher. But then again, on to the next!
Dealers do a service by offering coins at a fixed price - usually the coins have been screened and are pretty nice and at a fair price for the quality. Sometimes they are expensive but if it’s the same coin you would go nuclear for in an auction, buy it from the dealer immediately! The key is deciding which coins are “special” and moving aggressively when you see them.
Good luck with your collection! Be patient but picky. Quality is often rare but seldom cheap.
I've had that happen to me as well. A strong bid being countered by a nuclear bid usually makes one disappointed at first, but then you realize that with their overpayment is not worth complaining over. A part of the coin game is finding underrated/undervalued coins at opportune times
Collector of Capped Bust Halves, SLQ's, Commems, and random cool stuff! @davidv_numismatics on Instagram
Absolutely! And well stated!!
A very famous Walker collector once told me that to build the kind of set that you want to; you're going to HAVE to pay up!! Also, same Walker friend and I have agreed that you'll almost never regret stepping up to buy a nice piece but you will almost ALWAYS regret the 'special' one that got away. Thankfully, I have had VERY few of the latter, because I was almost NEVER afraid to pull the trigger, on a nice coin, when given the opportunity.
My Walker set was a lifelong and long term ambition, so if I was going to do it; I was going to do it RIGHT!! Because, the way that I look at it....My set is part of my legacy.....It is important to me, and I'm only going to fill each slot ONCE. So, when I do, it will be with a coin that people will not soon forget, because of it's quality, it will be remembered.....
This is, also, the reason that I feel that PICTURES are such an important element to a Registry set. I am often amazed by how many of the top sets don't even have them.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
A couple months ago I was rather enamored by a coin in a legend regency auction. It had a cool pedigree, and was really attractive for the grade. The coin sold for $4500 on a different auction six months prior, and I really wanted it so I placed my “nuke bid” for $5500 and was promptly outbid by another.
I had already fixated on this coin for a while, and envisioned it among my collection. Looking back, I had developed an emotional attachment to this coin, and when my ego kicked in and I bumped my bid past $6000. I was outbid again, and the coin sold for close to $6500 with the juice, Almost a 50% increase from a well publicized auction just 6 months prior.
I count my blessings that the winning bidder saved me from my own clouded judgement. At CSNS, was lucky to find a slightly better date, in the same grade with a cac sticker for about HALF of the cost that the first coin realized (albeit in an NGC holder, but a gorgeous coin nonetheless). The way I look at it, the first coin was just not meant for me.
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On the other hand the probable consignee did well ...that piece sold in Aug 2021 at Stacks for 875$. When I think through pricing ...I have to ask my self - would I have paid more? Would you have wanted that piece for at least 1 increment higher (~1600 or $1700) (as that piece sold $1375 and with GC fee's $1546)
There were some 50 pieces in the XF - AU range auctioned since Aug 2016 (that piece appears to be the the 1 CAC sticker piece - if the PCGS auction archives filter correctly ... so keep an eye out.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
Mind sharing a link to your set?
Thanks, I'd love to look at it
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
If you go ATS (NGC), I am #7 in the WLH Full Set Category.
I am impossible to miss.
Thanks, for your interest.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Stunning...............
I wonder if we ever crossed paths back in the 2000s when I was doing my set
Thanks for sharing!
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
Decades ago, I bid on a unique National Bank note from my home state. I thought I had put in a nuclear bid. I was only the fourth highest bidder. I was very, very disappointed!
Thank You
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Sometimes they just tell me they found it cheaper. Lol. I appreciate the honesty
Thank you everyone for such great comments, thoughts, and feedback. I just need to remember that (especially with a Type set) I should expect to see many SLD examples o that are both stunning and within my price range.
I’ll be sure to post my first SLD on here when I’m able to add the first of the two needed for my Type Set.
If the item is unique, is there such a thing as a nuclear bid? Seems like sky’s the limit approach could be used
There really are no winners in a nuclear war.
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PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE
Whether you find one tomorrow or a year from now buy one that you really like and don’t compromise.
I was interested in this coin too and it would have been my first SLD purchase. The sticker boosted my confidence, and I liked the overall look, but I didn't understand the two brighter areas on the right of Liberty. I figured they would only bother me so I didn't bid. Any ideas what's going on there?
I have no where near the level of experience that some other members have, so feel free if anyone wants to correct my opinion, but I would say pvc contamination.
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I was going to say the same. The spot after the "7" in the date and around Liberty's foot looks like PVC remnants after it has sat for too long before removal.
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CAC generally excels at spotting PVC.
Something is going on where the “spots” are and also perhaps to the left of Ms. Liberty. I don’t know what caused them but they’re not helping the appearance of the coin. A sticker is no guarantee that a coin has all the bells and whistles.
I vastly prefer the Legend/Heritage/others model where everyone always has a chance to respond to any bid, no matter how nuclear. I think it's best for consigners and best for those who really want a coin, not so good for bargain hunters.
I once made 3 nuclear bids which to me where 25-50% under the price guide won each one. I won’t ever go over what I feel is a fair price so if I lose I don’t really lose. I’m fine letting something go if it’s more than what I want to pay.
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
How is that "nuclear "?
Maybe it's a Chernobyl kind of thing.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
My version of nuclear is not the same as yours.
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
Looks like attempts at removal of something imo, leaving a clean spot behind
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Wow! That's sort of the opposite of my experience with the Middle Date LCs I was bidding on last summer. I was bidding on raw coins from a higher end set and they were bringing as much as 50% or more over price guide at the time. I was the 3rd or 4th highest bidder for a few coins... flashforward a year and a lot of the price guides are now higher reflecting an upturn in that market. The two pieces that I actually won will likely get sent to our hosts at some point...
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I simply go sideways and bid / offer on something else can get at my price / budget.
@lkenefic I have paid well over price guide for my Middle Dates PCGS G06 set. An 1848 n-27 LC in PCGS MS62 just had a price guide price bump...funny thing was it was because of my winning "nuclear" bid at DLRC which the price guide approved of. Made me feel good!
If your bid is really nuclear (self-destructive) and you didn’t win, you won.
Since most of the coins I buy (none US) haven't sold before or recently whether in comparable quality or otherwise, I don't know what qualifies as "nuclear" other than a price I'd never pay.
I don't think there is a single coin I'd go "nuclear" to buy, but certainly not one I consider to be of "material" value. It's not that important to me. Most I have ever paid is about $3000 and I do buy more $1000+ coins now but wouldn't go "nuclear" above this price level. Big difference doing this chasing a $100 coin versus one worth multiple thousands, or more.
I'd also never do it with any coin where a roughly comparable example is available. I recently bought a PCGS VF-30 in my series for $1000. Concurrently, a multi-coin lot had the same one but not as nice which ended up selling for about $500. This is very unusual though, as these happened to be the two nicest (of the very few) I have ever seen. I went ahead and bought the TPG coin but only because the seller cut their asking price noticeably.