The new Brady vs Manning?

doubledragon

Looking forward to watching this rivalry develop in the coming years.

GroceryRackPack

There's My Guy....

thisistheshow

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

perkdog

Love that these guys are so young in their career, I hope Hebert can get in the mix as well as a couple other young guns

Darin

Too soon to count out Josh Allen although he needs to get the Bills to the next level.

perkdog

@Darin said:
Too soon to count out Josh Allen although he needs to get the Bills to the next level.

I didn't purposely leave him out, obviously he is in the mix

GroceryRackPack

This is so Awesome...it's the 2nd week in April and we're talking about the Studs that man the grid iron...

How cool is that ???

perkdog

@GroceryRackPack said:
This is so Awesome...it's the 2nd week in April and we're talking about the Studs that man the grid iron...

How cool is that ???

🙌🍻👏👏👏👏

doubledragon

@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

GroceryRackPack

I’m sorry that I can not type about Peyton Manning….I do not want to be incarcerated here on the forum …

Basebal21

@doubledragon said:
@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

Peyton is a HOF and very good QB no doubt, but it cant be ignored that he played in a really bad division most of his career.

For Burrow and Mahomes what Burrow is doing on a bad team is more impressive. Both are obviously studs, but so far Burrow really doesnt get the NFL special rules the Chiefs get with weak penalties that decide a game.

craig44

As a very biased Brady fan, I can't see how any rivalry could ever "rival" Brady v. Manning. I always circled those games at the beginning of the year and anticipated them like none other. The fact that they had 17 meetings is pretty unreal in itself.

It does look like Burrow v. Mahomes could possibly be on the same type of trajectory. they will need many more years and both teams will need to be relevant for those years to match it.

perkdog

@craig44 said:
As a very biased Brady fan, I can't see how any rivalry could ever "rival" Brady v. Manning. I always circled those games at the beginning of the year and anticipated them like none other. The fact that they had 17 meetings is pretty unreal in itself.

It does look like Burrow v. Mahomes could possibly be on the same type of trajectory. they will need many more years and both teams will need to be relevant for those years to match it.

Im.with you on Brady vs Manning but I could definitely see this Burrow vs Mahomes rivalry catching some steam if both teams continue to be facing each other in the playoffs every year.

Ofcourse if Burrow gets a Super Bowl Win after going through KC it will help

thisistheshow

@Basebal21 said:

@doubledragon said:
@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

Peyton is a HOF and very good QB no doubt, but it cant be ignored that he played in a really bad division most of his career.

For Burrow and Mahomes what Burrow is doing on a bad team is more impressive. Both are obviously studs, but so far Burrow really doesnt get the NFL special rules the Chiefs get with weak penalties that decide a game.

.....
First off @basebal21, let me congratulate you on having really joined the sports talk family by receiving what is considered a major award...an LOL from @darin

Secondly, let me ask you, where do you stand on the Brady as GOAT thing? We have had a number of these discussions around here, and I honestly am curious where you stand.

Darin

@thisistheshow said:

@Basebal21 said:

@doubledragon said:
@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

Peyton is a HOF and very good QB no doubt, but it cant be ignored that he played in a really bad division most of his career.

For Burrow and Mahomes what Burrow is doing on a bad team is more impressive. Both are obviously studs, but so far Burrow really doesnt get the NFL special rules the Chiefs get with weak penalties that decide a game.

.....
First off @basebal21, let me congratulate you on having really joined the sports talk family by receiving what is considered a major award...an LOL from @darin

Secondly, let me ask you, where do you stand on the Brady as GOAT thing? We have had a number of these discussions around here, and I honestly am curious where you stand.

He does have some funny posts.
I remember a super bowl the chiefs didn’t go to because they picked Brady off but a chiefs player (dee ford?) lined up offsides. AFC championship, that would have sealed the game. But not once did I blame the refs, it was the correct call.
Baseball21 seems to be the type that blames the ref instead of a particular team for losing.

thisistheshow

@Darin said:

@thisistheshow said:

@Basebal21 said:

@doubledragon said:
@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

Peyton is a HOF and very good QB no doubt, but it cant be ignored that he played in a really bad division most of his career.

For Burrow and Mahomes what Burrow is doing on a bad team is more impressive. Both are obviously studs, but so far Burrow really doesnt get the NFL special rules the Chiefs get with weak penalties that decide a game.

.....
First off @basebal21, let me congratulate you on having really joined the sports talk family by receiving what is considered a major award...an LOL from @darin

Secondly, let me ask you, where do you stand on the Brady as GOAT thing? We have had a number of these discussions around here, and I honestly am curious where you stand.

He does have some funny posts.
I remember a super bowl the chiefs didn’t go to because they picked Brady off but a chiefs player (dee ford?) lined up offsides. AFC championship, that would have sealed the game. But not once did I blame the refs, it was the correct call.
Baseball21 seems to be the type that blames the ref instead of a particular team for losing.

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I remember that game well.

There are many quotations about 'luck'.

it is the residue of design

it is when preparation meets opportunity

Etc...

Brady was on both sides of it. My take ...he helped put his team into position to get to the SB better and more frequently than anyone who has ever done it. Thus, things happen, both good and bad.

In my opinion, Mahomes is in the same trajectory.

Basebal21

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

@thisistheshow said:

@Basebal21 said:

@doubledragon said:
@thisistheshow said:

To answer that question, it feels as though we need to first define what "Brady vs Manning" was. This answer could be different for everyone.

I'll start with you, @doubledragon

And also, looking back at it is interesting versus how it felt in the moment.

I'm a Patriots fan. Watching those games was a lot of fun. I loved to see my team compete and hopefully win against the best. I remember feeling that, but also feeling nervous as always.

Though as the years went on, it became apparent that Brady had well outpaced Manning in terms of helping to get his team into the most meaningful games and winning them.

So I think, is Mahomes vs Burrow going to be similar... Great matchups, but only one of them really making it happen on the last Sunday? 🤷

To me, Brady vs Manning was always a big event, the two best quarterbacks in the league, of their era, going at it. I always felt like Brady had the upper hand every time they played eachother, but Peyton did manage to come away with a few big wins. They played eachother 17 times, with Brady winning 11-6. It was a special rivalry, it was larger than life when they played eachother, two legends of the game, it had a magical feeling to it. There's a book about their rivalry that I plan on reading when I get some time.

Peyton is a HOF and very good QB no doubt, but it cant be ignored that he played in a really bad division most of his career.

For Burrow and Mahomes what Burrow is doing on a bad team is more impressive. Both are obviously studs, but so far Burrow really doesnt get the NFL special rules the Chiefs get with weak penalties that decide a game.

.....
First off @basebal21, let me congratulate you on having really joined the sports talk family by receiving what is considered a major award...an LOL from @darin

Secondly, let me ask you, where do you stand on the Brady as GOAT thing? We have had a number of these discussions around here, and I honestly am curious where you stand.

Unfortunately refs/umps/officials have been inserting themselves more with the outcomes of games and Brady did get special treatment.

With that said its really hard to make any argument against Brady being the Goat for QBs. Winning in Tampa while the Pats fell off should at least for now eliminate the talk that BB was the reason why they won. Gronk was obviously a stud, but Brady elevated the weapons around him. He never really had an elite WR core but made them one. He had Moss a couple years but other than that wasnt a whole lot. Welker has a significant fall off in his early 30s when he left for Denver, Lloyd had one really good year in Denver than was out of the league a year after leaving the Pats as just some examples. They were able to take late draft WRs and Brady elevated them.