NHL Erik Karlsson hits 100 points (Defensmen)

TheGoonies1985

Not something you see often a defensmen reaching the 100 point plateau. Very few have ever reached that many points that play that position in NHL history.

jay0791

I think only 6 have done it.
B leech was the last.

I think this cements his HOF Career for sure.

craig44

What would be considered more impressive: McDavids 150 point season or 100 points by a defenseman?

TheGoonies1985

@craig44 said:
What would be considered more impressive: McDavids 150 point season or 100 points by a defenseman?

Hard to say only 6 players have made it to both categories.

TheGoonies1985

@craig44 said:
What would be considered more impressive: McDavids 150 point season or 100 points by a defenseman?

I would have to add that the most impressive of all 6 that reached or passed 100 points is Bobby Orr since he led the league in points twice and by consequence won the Art Ross Trophy twice.

No defensmen has ever done that before or after Orr did it twice.

Best defensmen ever = Bobby Orr

jay0791

I refer to Defenseman only

Darin

Yeah but is he any good at playing defense? The elite scorers always get questioned about it so what about a guy whose job title is ‘defensemen’.

Basebal21

@craig44 said:
What would be considered more impressive: McDavids 150 point season or 100 points by a defenseman?

McD. He has over 60 goals and 75 of Karlssons points are on assists which are dependent on teammates. Granted there is a value to assists and he isnt on a good team, but how many of those points are secondary assists?

jay0791

We need to keep Bobby Orr out of this discussion (my choice for greatest HK player all time). Apples to Oranges....Comparing Karlsson to Orr is like comparing Apples to rotting bananas. He is a great HK player for sure. Norris (3X) this year and future HOF'er. Just my humble opinion. Both 150/100 are great accomplishments.

jay0791

I might add the Norris has become year end points leader. This year the players voted for Cale Makar.

craig44

Oh my gosh, someone just brought up Bobby Orr.

what next, George Brett?

Tabe

@Darin said:
Yeah but is he any good at playing defense? The elite scorers always get questioned about it so what about a guy whose job title is ‘defensemen’.

Karlsson is terrible defensively.

lanemyer85

@Darin said:
Yeah but is he any good at playing defense? The elite scorers always get questioned about it so what about a guy whose job title is ‘defensemen’.

let it go. Then watch the forthcoming LA and Edmonton series. You'll learn some stuff about the importance of defense. And you'll notice a distinct difference on how Kopitar plays defense compared to McJesus.

JoeBanzai

@lanemyer85 said:

@Darin said:
Yeah but is he any good at playing defense? The elite scorers always get questioned about it so what about a guy whose job title is ‘defensemen’.

let it go. Then watch the forthcoming LA and Edmonton series. You'll learn some stuff about the importance of defense. And you'll notice a distinct difference on how Kopitar plays defense compared to McJesus.

Most here only care about points per game..........nothing else matters.

lanemyer85

Are you implying that the 3 best teams of the salary cap era (Hawks, Kings, Lightning) were successful because most of their best offensive players were also among their best defenders? Toews, Hossa, Saad, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, Point, Hedman, Palat, Killorn, Doughty, Kopitar, Justin Williams, Brown, Toffoli...nope, none of that checks out. I'll have to go watch some 90's Bulls games because I don't think Jordan and Pippen were ever considered to be the best defenders at their respective positions either. Probably no All NBA Defensive Team honors being made there.