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Anyone saw the Hookneck that sold for 26,000?!

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that a strong price for such a coin in that grade?

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And my AU55 only sold for $5500!

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    Come on, do share!

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Is that a strong price for such a coin in that grade?

    I think it was insane.

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2023 4:52PM

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    Come on, do share!

    Nah nothing like you guys like but I am happy to add coins in my price range. It is in the range of 1732-1771 I will leave it that.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    Come on, do share!

    Nah nothing like you guys like but I am happy to add coins in my price range.

    Come on! We all like coins. No judgements.

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Is that a strong price for such a coin in that grade?

    I think it was insane.

    How are prices doing in general this evening overall so far?

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    Come on, do share!

    Nah nothing like you guys like but I am happy to add coins in my price range.

    Come on! We all like coins. No judgements.

    Will share it once it arrives in hand I always do that so nothing personal. If it was spectacular for me I would have sent you a PM just a regular date I needed in my price range.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think @Abuelo is after some errors.....

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Was able to add one 8 reales from Mexico to my collection happy with that. Anyone else pick up anything for their collection?

    Come on, do share!

    Nah nothing like you guys like but I am happy to add coins in my price range.

    Come on! We all like coins. No judgements.

    PM you

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2023 5:01PM

    @pruebas said:
    I think @Abuelo is after some errors.....

    Are you buying anything?

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That 1880 double struck 8 reales just closed at 24 000$.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys have to remember every time I buy a coin I pay the conversion rate since I live in Canada now it is 37% add 5% custom taxes as well then shipping that takes a lot out of my budget. If I was in the US I could 5-7 coins per year versus 2-4.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried for the blank 8R planchet but struck out. But I have a nicer one! o:)

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6000$ for that 1879 50 centavos MS65 MO-M

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    I tried for the blank 8R planchet but struck out. But I have a nicer one! o:)

    Thinking of selling after tonight auction ?

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    You guys have to remember every time I buy a coin I pay the conversion rate since I live in Canada now it is 37% add 5% custom taxes as well then shipping that takes a lot out of my budget. If I was in the US I could 5-7 coins per year versus 2-4.

    You are not paying any more than we are. Just because 1 USD is 0.73 CAD, you are still paying the same prices as us.

    But agreed, the 5% Customs (and GST?) is a surcharge. If you live in certain US states, you would also have to pay sales taxes.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    @pruebas said:
    I tried for the blank 8R planchet but struck out. But I have a nicer one! o:)

    Thinking of selling after tonight auction ?

    Nope! And my cost was quite low!

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    You guys have to remember every time I buy a coin I pay the conversion rate since I live in Canada now it is 37% add 5% custom taxes as well then shipping that takes a lot out of my budget. If I was in the US I could 5-7 coins per year versus 2-4.

    You are not paying any more than we are. Just because 1 USD is 0.73 CAD, you are still paying the same prices as us.

    But agreed, the 5% Customs (and GST?) is a surcharge. If you live in certain US states, you would also have to pay sales taxes.

    Sure feels like I am spending more of my income but I get your point.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2023 5:43PM

    The 1879 50 centavos in NGC 65 if really a 65 was a very good price for the buyer

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask did you add anything tonight? An error perhaps?

    I regret selling my 8R errors 10 or so years ago, but maybe what I bought with the proceeds also increased.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    The 1879 50 centavos in NGC 65 if really a 65 was a very good price for the buyer

    Not so sure about that. VERY few 50c collectors in the US. Virtually none in Mexico.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry @pruebas college payments are coming, no errors for me.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    Sorry @pruebas college payments are coming, no errors for me.

    I forgot about those top-graded decimals. I hope you were lucky there. I wanted the 1879/69-Mo 10c, but I decided to save funds.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @bidask said:
    The 1879 50 centavos in NGC 65 if really a 65 was a very good price for the buyer

    Not so sure about that. VERY few 50c collectors in the US. Virtually none in Mexico.

    Yes but even more so VERY , VERY few 50 centavos in 65 ….

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    @bidask did you add anything tonight? An error perhaps?

    I regret selling my 8R errors 10 or so years ago, but maybe what I bought with the proceeds also increased.

    No errors but they were dramatically strong though

    I was stopped out on the 1823 mo jm 8 reales at 12k

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2023 6:06PM

    I like the centavos series especially the 5 centavos and 10 centavos. Will not collect them but still some nice looking coins and many tough coins.

    NFL: Buffalo Bills & Green Bay Packers

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas no decimals this time. School is expensive 🤯

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask you could have added a bunch to your gold Peso collection tonight. So many coins!

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2023 5:28AM

    I was tracking a few pieces, including an 1813-JJ Mexico 8 Reales in NGC 63 that sold for strong money - $3,600, This coin was a part of a hoard of 1811-1813 MS Ferd VII that were certified around 2008. All went through the same treatment that left the coins extremely lustrous. Most, like this piece, plagued with hairlines. I felt that this coin's previous holder, a PCGS MS62, was a better fit: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/26504991

    Here's the 63+ I own from this hoard. Superb cartwheel luster.

    Or you can see the video on IG: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYdY12TJHeN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


    8 Reales Madness Collection
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    @bidask you could have added a bunch to your gold Peso collection tonight. So many coins!

    True and I was tempted....but was not sure of NGC grading of these

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I was tracking a few pieces, including an 1813-JJ Mexico 8 Reales in NGC 63 that sold for strong money - $3,600, This coin was a part of a hoard of 1811-1813 MS Ferd VII that were certified around 2008. All went through the same treatment that left the coins extremely lustrous. Most, like this piece, plagued with hairlines. I felt that this coin's previous holder, a PCGS MS62, was a better fit: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/26504991

    Here's the 63+ I own from this hoard. Superb cartwheel luster.

    Or you can see the video on IG: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYdY12TJHeN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    I remember seeing yours in hand ...very nice luster!

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 409 ✭✭✭

    So discussing extreme grade scarcities, or more esoteric items like the double-struck Cap & Ray... it can be hard to gauge results since you just need a couple of bidders to jack the price.

    More widgety material is, I think, easier to judge as you can really peg pretty closely what something "should" sell for based on multiple prior results.

    Just reviewing a few things quickly... the prices that that type of material brought here are pretty staggering.

    I can't believe that this, even with nice even patina an AU55 grade slapped on it (never mind that NGC's cob grading is basically that professor who gives EVERYONE an A)... with virtually zero legend brought $2600 with juice!!:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-philip-iii-cob-8-reales-nd-1598-1606-mo-f-au55-ngc-/a/61313-23008.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    A worn, CRUDELY holed C&J common assayer O 1R...is $169??!!!:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-charles-and-johanna-late-series-real-nd-1554-1556-m-o-vf-details-holed-ngc-/a/61313-23002.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    This... nothing special Philip IIII cob 1R. Nice cross but not even a mm or asyr... almost $200???????
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-philip-iv-cob-real-nd-1622-1654-mo-vf25-ngc-/a/61313-23010.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    A less than MS pillar 2R... over $1K!!:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-charles-iii-2-reales-1766-mo-m-au55-ngc-/a/61313-23023.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Common date XF45 C.IIII 8R, nice enough original tone, but nothing exceptional... $380!:
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-charles-iv-8-reales-1798-mo-fm-xf45-ngc-/a/61313-23041.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Good God.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was anyone successful in any Second Republic coins in the sale?

  • ncsuwolf74ncsuwolf74 Posts: 116 ✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2023 11:36AM

    Hard to be successful when your whole body is in paralysis over the prices these coins were fetching lol. Lots of tone lovers really driving the prices up and lots of boredom bidding imo. That price on the 1823 mo jm hookneck . Just wow

    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

    Jim Elliot

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1846 mo 8 reales ngc65 also went for big bucks….used to be mine .

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2023 6:40PM

    @pruebas said:
    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

    I am 🤓

    Paid up too 😬

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What did you win?

    Me, nothing!

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    What did you win?

    Me, nothing!

    I am embarrassed to say cause I paid up !

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

     

    Yes, I tried to participate.
    I was going for a Charles III 1/2 Real in PCGS-MS65, the lone top pop
    I really didn't want to give up on it but somebody else wanted even more than me.
    Sold for $4,080

     
     
    I wasn't bidding on this coin but was watching it out of curiosity.
    A 1774 Charles III 2R in PCGS-MS64
    Sold for a very strong price of $4,560
    Some of that strong pricing might be attributable to social media promotion/marketing of the coin on IG, as I observed it posted by IG account - creamcoins but that's just speculation.
     

    Charles III Album

    Charles III Portrait Set

    Charles IV Album

    Charles IV Portrait Set

    Spanish Colonial Pillar Set

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok I won this coin

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • ncsuwolf74ncsuwolf74 Posts: 116 ✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

    You should be pleased at what those copper patterns brought because I know you own some!

    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."

    Jim Elliot

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2023 3:27PM

    @ncsuwolf74 said:

    @pruebas said:
    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

    You should be pleased at what those copper patterns brought because I know you own some!

    Indeed.

    You know, I bought my first example of that pattern at 1998 NYINC, and if I remember correctly I paid $350. That coin is today a PCGS SP64BN.

    But I also hold the record for the most paid for that coin since 2016 ($10k for a PF65BN) and broken in 2022 ($29k for a SP65RB). I expected to be buried in both of them, but now I think not.

    The copper ones aren’t rare, though the PF63BN last night was only the second that I know of with the die clash and was probably the better coin of the two.

  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭

    yes, you paid up for the 1825 Zs, but not too crazy. Not many examples in MS and this date seems to bring a premium. I paid up for the au version I have as well from the Nogales sale.

  • dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭

    I paid up a little for my win. I won the 1890 GA in pcgs MS 63. Had to fight with some live bidders to close it.

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2023 11:26AM

    @bidask said:
    Ok I won this coin

    You paid up for a coin that made sense to pay up for.

    Edited to add: Someone offered me the D&P plate coin of this DAM in late 2000 for $350 and the ex-Norweb coin for $450. I guess I should have bought them? :D

    The Norweb coin was called "without a doubt the finest known" at that time. Maybe that is your coin (missing pedigree)?

    Edited again to add: The seller told me there were several different eagle varieties based on the number of berries (5 or 6 or 7).

  • AngryDragonAngryDragon Posts: 77 ✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2023 8:01PM

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @pruebas said:
    Anybody watching or participating tonight?

    Prices are very high (again).

     

    Yes, I tried to participate.
    I was going for a Charles III 1/2 Real in PCGS-MS65, the lone top pop
    I really didn't want to give up on it but somebody else wanted even more than me.
    Sold for $4,080

    Same here. very disappointed to have to cede the 1773, but happy for the seller. However, pleased to have picked up former Rudman 1760/59 1/2R in MS62, VF25 1767 and XF40 1788 4Rs, and AU58 1795 8R

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also bought this one

    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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