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Did someone deface the plastic or coin on this auction item?

WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 11, 2023 5:45PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I am considering this coin for purchase at auction. Was just wondering if someone placed an arrow as a joke on the plastic holder. Don’t think it is on the coin as it would not have straight graded. What say you?

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it's on the coin not the plastic. :/

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Might be pareidolia and not an actual arrow.
    2. Depending on the grade a small dark spot like that would allow for a straight grade.
    3. Hard to be sure from a photo, but I'm 90% sure it's on the coin as it does not extend past the edge of the coin but runs right up to the edge of the coin.
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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Looks like it's on the coin not the plastic. :/

    How is this possible?

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭

    What is pareidoila?

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:
    How is this possible?

    Could be a minor lamination or planchet impurity.

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @Walkerlover said:
    How is this possible?

    Could be a minor lamination or planchet impurity.

    Okay though for CAC you think?

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    JW77JW77 Posts: 461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the GC website there is a link to ask GC a question about the item. I had the same question on another lot whether haze was on holder or coin and received a reply the next day. If the item is up tomorrow you may be out of luck.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:

    @Walkerlover said:
    How is this possible?

    Could be a minor lamination or planchet impurity.

    My first thought was a minor planchet lamination and the graders recognized it as a mint made blemish.

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    Shane6596Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It does look like its on the coin. There is a copper outline of the arrow shape and seems to curl up the rim. If it is truly on the coin, that would drive me crazy everytime i looked at it, being an MS66.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:
    Okay though for CAC you think?

    CAC.... what's that? :D

    Sorry, I'm not a CAC expert, you will need to wait for someone else to reply to that. ;)

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's almost certainly part of the coin's surface and is not an arrow. It could be improper alloy purity, a tiny sport of corrosion or other schmutz. Regardless, I am pretty darn certain it is on the coin.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    It's almost certainly part of the coin's surface and is not an arrow. It could be improper alloy purity, a tiny sport of corrosion or other schmutz. Regardless, I am pretty darn certain it is on the coin.

    Tom do you think I should pass on it because of this?

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought is that was a carbon spot that someone tried to remove and it’s becoming more noticeable over time because they used a tool that make light abrasions. But my first thoughts aren’t always right.

    Mr_Spud

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass on it and look for others there are plenty of options for you. ;)

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1938+cent+ms66+-s+-d&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=10

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:

    @TomB said:
    It's almost certainly part of the coin's surface and is not an arrow. It could be improper alloy purity, a tiny sport of corrosion or other schmutz. Regardless, I am pretty darn certain it is on the coin.

    Tom do you think I should pass on it because of this?

    Since you have already noticed it and it concerned you enough to ask a question about it then, yes, I would suggest you pass on this particular piece and look for another. Since it is a fairly generic coin in a fairly generic grade there is a good likelihood that a satisfactory one will surface in reasonable time. This is especially true if you are simply looking for a type and not a particular date.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    erscoloerscolo Posts: 499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are many clean MS66 RD 1938 Lincoln Cents out there. Cosider a pass on the one at auction.

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