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ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 19, 2023 7:23AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I've seen numerous examples of 1853 Arrows Half dimes having strong die striation lines. Most run north to south. I am wondering what the Half dime guys have to say about the cause of these lines. Is it from over-polished dies? I included a pic of my coin as an example. The lines are strong and prominent. I'm not sure I've seen lines like this on any other series so often and so commonplace. Opinions are welcome and encouraged.

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those line look like they were in the planchet, not on the die.

    Andy Lustig

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 10, 2023 9:56AM

    @MrEureka said:
    Those line look like they were in the planchet, not on the die.

    Yes. Look at the shoulder. Die polish lines in the flat field would not suddenly dip down into the recess in the die that formed the shoulder.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These remind me of the type of lines that can be found on RE half dollars and it has been my understanding that the cause of those lines had to do with the planchets and not with the die. Sometimes folks will call them roller marks when talking about RE half dollars.

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Question: do you see these lines on obverses, reverses, or both?

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure but looks like a nice high grade example!

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭

    @NumisOxide said:
    Not sure but looks like a nice high grade example!

    It's PCGS 62

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭

    @Coinosaurus said:
    Question: do you see these lines on obverses, reverses, or both?

    The reverse is full of regular die scratch lines:

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @Coinosaurus said:
    Question: do you see these lines on obverses, reverses, or both?

    The reverse is full of regular die scratch lines:

    Is that a post mint scratch under the D or die scratch?

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I apologize first, but when I see the title of this thread all I can think about is Dire Straights ...

    https://youtu.be/wTP2RUD_cL0

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinosaurus said:
    Question: do you see these lines on obverses, reverses, or both?

    If the lines are roller marks, i.e., in the planchet before the coin was struck, and if they are only (or much more prominently) seen on the obverse, why might that be?

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭

    @NumisOxide said:

    @Manorcourtman said:

    @Coinosaurus said:
    Question: do you see these lines on obverses, reverses, or both?

    The reverse is full of regular die scratch lines:

    Is that a post mint scratch under the D or die scratch?

    It's a die scratch.

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