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1716 6S Westfriese scheepjesschelling

mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
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Anyone know any history to this coin?

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭

    KM# 110
    6 STUIVERS (Scheepjesschelling)
    0.5830 Silver 5.92 - 9.15 gram, weight varies Obv: Crowned
    arms of West Friesland divide value Obv. Legend: MO : NO :
    ORDIN : WEST : FRISIÆ : 1716 Rev: Sailing ship Rev. Legend:
    DEVS : FORTITVDO : ET : SPES : NOSTRA Note: Klippe.

    1716

    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A "Klippe" is a coin stamped onto a square planchet. Originally associated with sieges and other emergencies, they became somewhat fashionable as collector's items. That line about how the "weight varies" for these coins from under 6 grams to over 9 grams, indicates these coins were struck for collectors, not for circulation - a circulating silver coin needs a much tighter weight range.

    @mrbrklyn said:
    Anyone know any history to this coin?

    The "schelling" is, of course, analogous to the English word "shilling".

    Here is a [slightly touched up] Google Translation of the paragraph about these coins from the Dutch Wikipedia article on schellings:

    On November 9, 1670, the States of Holland decided to [reform the monetary system] because there were now too many inferior shillings in circulation. The States Assembly decided to coin a better quality shilling, with the provincial coat of arms on the obverse and a "a mounted ship of war" on the reverse. This new shilling was intended to emphasize the status of the Republic as a seafaring power. The design of the stamp was by Daniël Drappentier. This shilling with a silver content of [.583 fine], soon called the scheepjesschelling, became a success because it was also widely accepted internationally and, moreover, proved to be very popular in the East trade. There was a folk tale about the scheepjesschelling that they were minted in honor of the conquest of the Spanish treasure fleet. That [is unlikely], since that feat of arms had already taken place more than 40 years before the first [coin] was struck. In the course of the 18th century Utrecht, Zeeland and Gelderland also switched, albeit hesitantly, to coinage of the Scheepjesschelling.

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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭

    indicates these coins were struck for collectors, not for circulation>>

    That is interesting because it seems that this was circulated. I have no clue how to grade it though, but looking at the high points and the tips of the square, it seems they are a little worn.

    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭

    https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/collection/NG-VG-5-122

    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭
    edited February 10, 2023 5:05AM

    This is a second one picked up in a Stacks Auction. If these were made for collectors from the mint, they did well as they got my attention :)



    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭






    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭


    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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    mrbrklynmrbrklyn Posts: 105 ✭✭✭

    So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
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