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This late 18th C. medal of C. K. von Kressenstein (1454-1535) has initials or abbrev. on the obv of "C.PR.S.C.M" below the right arm. Also a big V. on the right armor edge. 41mm. No markings on the edge. I'd like to decifer the letters. Thanks. Happy New Year to all my friends here. Peace Roy

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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I can’t answer your question, I will take this opportunity to gripe about German auctioneers abbreviating the heck out of their auction descriptions.

    Don’t they know that online translators don’t do abbreviations? 😵‍💫

  • IVBIVB Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    "C.PR.S.C.M" — "Cum Privilegio Sacrae Caesareae Majestatis", this phrase translates as "with the privilege of the Holy Imperial Majesty".
    This is the privilege statement for printers / engravers in Holy Roman Empire. This privilege is not only the authorization to publish, but the imperial printing privilege gave copyright protection to the publisher for a time.

  • numismagramnumismagram Posts: 145 ✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 It appears to be a form of the signature for G. W. Vestner. The V on the armor edge make sense, but according to Forrer (Biographical Dictionary of Medallists, vol. 6 [T-Z]), the additional C.PR.S.C.M. was also an extension of his signature, though he does not spell out what exactly this means...

    @pruebas yeah, abbreviations, especially with respect to references, are a pain. What can complicate it even more is when the reference is actually a specialized catalog, and the name of that catalog/collection has numerous parts that can conceivably be what is meant. It takes a bit to get used to what they are actually referencing,

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @numismagram and @IVB Much appreciation on the info. This data really brings this medal alive for me. Thanks again. Peace Roy

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