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Is the name of this error correct?

I just got this stuff in a collection we bought. I agree with the capped die part of the label but shouldn't there be more for a reverse impression? Maybe I'm way off. It is early.....


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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2022 9:03AM

    That is the capped die. The die is capped with a struck coin which made the inverted impression

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    GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Counter-brockage.

    I’ve always had difficulty interpreting brockage and counter-brockages and how they were created. Hope this helps you down the right path.

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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:
    Counter-brockage.

    I’ve always had difficulty interpreting brockage and counter-brockages and how they were created. Hope this helps you down the right path.

    It’s a full brockage struck by a capped die. Counter-brockage is a brockage coin that creates a brockage itself, this is not one.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:

    @GoldenEgg said:
    Counter-brockage.

    I’ve always had difficulty interpreting brockage and counter-brockages and how they were created. Hope this helps you down the right path.

    It’s a full brockage struck by a capped die. Counter-brockage is a brockage coin that creates a brockage itself, this is not one.

    ty. i was going to make a post like this earlier but the words failed me but you sure nailed it! :+1:

    counters seem to be much scarcer from my experience.

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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:

    @GoldenEgg said:
    Counter-brockage.

    I’ve always had difficulty interpreting brockage and counter-brockages and how they were created. Hope this helps you down the right path.

    It’s a full brockage struck by a capped die. Counter-brockage is a brockage coin that creates a brockage itself, this is not one.

    ty. i was going to make a post like this earlier but the words failed me but you sure nailed it! :+1:

    counters seem to be much scarcer from my experience.

    Counterbrockages are indeed much much more rare than brockages. Another point I didn't say is that a brockage will show incuse design elements and a counterbrockage will have raised design elements.

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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭

    More accurately, a counterborckage is a brockage of a brockage coin. Much rarer than simple brockages, and one of my two favorite error types.

    The coin pictured above can be called either a brockage (yes, let stage), or struck thru a die cap, or combining both terms.

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    Ed. S.

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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say it's struck thru a mid-stage capped die, not late stage.

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    EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never heard the phrase "Counter-brockage" but I heard the phrase "Brocker maker" The Brocker- maker is much scarcer than the brockage itself as its much harder to identify. The Brocker-maker is musher in appearance on one side and the other side looks normal. I only saw 1 Brocker- maker in my life but several more brockerages. Bust brockerages are very rare and very difficult to locate.

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