@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
So I thought if I could help somebody without that negativity that that would be helpful
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
And if you're not a newbie why you even look at this post?
Because you don't own this forum. No one on this thread is a newbie.
Some forum members can't help but be rude. You learn to ignore them. But you can't stop them from reading this thread or being rude here either. Unfortunately, we're stuck with them.
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
So I thought if I could help somebody without that negativity that that would be helpful
I have a question about varieties. To me, varieties are simply a unique combination of obverse and reverse dies. However, I see many long-time collectors referring to coin defects and even die states as "varieties". I would not call a 1937-D 3-Legged Buffalo Nickel a "variety" but most do. I would also not call a "hot lips" Morgan Dollar a variety, but most do. I would not call a "bearded goddess" Bust Half a variety, but most do.
What is the true definition of variety? Do the examples that I mention classify as a "variety" under your definition? why or why not?
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
@NeophyteNumismatist said:
I have a question about varieties. To me, varieties are simply a unique combination of obverse and reverse dies. However, I see many long-time collectors referring to coin defects and even die states as "varieties". I would not call a 1937-D 3-Legged Buffalo Nickel a "variety" but most do. I would also not call a "hot lips" Morgan Dollar a variety, but most do. I would not call a "bearded goddess" Bust Half a variety, but most do.
What is the true definition of variety? Do the examples that I mention classify as a "variety" under your definition? why or why not?
Varieties are obv/Rev die combinations. However, that has long included early, mid and late die states. I suppose you could call them sub-varieties. But you're swimming against the tide if you want to redefine accepted terminology. Look at "original". It means "uncleaned" and usually includes toning which is not how they were "originally" made.
With respect to Varieties, many VAMs and Overton Varieties have characteristic die breaks. That ain't how the die was originally made.
@jmlanzaf said:
Varieties are obv/Rev die combinations. However, that has long included early, mid and late die states. I suppose you could call them sub-varieties. But you're swimming against the tide if you want to redefine accepted terminology. Look at "original". It means "uncleaned" and usually includes toning which is not how they were "originally" made.
With respect to Varieties, many VAMs and Overton Varieties have characteristic die breaks. That ain't how the die was originally made.
This is a newbie thread. You can be here because you are a newbie newbie. Post this non-newbie stuff some place else where we newbies can continue to avoid learning it, though.
@jmlanzaf said:
Varieties are obv/Rev die combinations. However, that has long included early, mid and late die states. I suppose you could call them sub-varieties. But you're swimming against the tide if you want to redefine accepted terminology. Look at "original". It means "uncleaned" and usually includes toning which is not how they were "originally" made.
With respect to Varieties, many VAMs and Overton Varieties have characteristic die breaks. That ain't how the die was originally made.
This is a newbie thread. You can be here because you are a newbie newbie. Post this non-newbie stuff some place else where we newbies can continue to avoid learning it, though.
Sorry. I forgot myself.
I need to go anyway. My plumber is teaching me how to do heart surgery.
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
So I thought if I could help somebody without that negativity that that would be helpful
@jmlanzaf said:
If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
And if you're not a newbie why you even look at this post?
I have a question for you. Why do you keep replying to your own posts? You can just edit the first one.
Not @Abehunter but a reason might be that few people read a thread they've previously opened all the way from Post 1 again. Most of us just pick up where we left off. So if I want people who have previously opened a thread to see my thoughts I add a new post, not just edit a previous one. YMMV.
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If newbies have questions, shouldn't they be taking to the more experienced?
Well that's for sure I don't know everything but it just seems like when I first started out and maybe still do ask a question you always get some kind of smart ass remark
So I thought if I could help somebody without that negativity that that would be helpful
And if you're not a newbie why you even look at this post?
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On a Jefferson US 5 cent (nickel) what year or years was the MM moved to the reverse of the coin ?
Because you don't own this forum. No one on this thread is a newbie.
Some forum members can't help but be rude. You learn to ignore them. But you can't stop them from reading this thread or being rude here either. Unfortunately, we're stuck with them.
I have a question for you. Why do you keep replying to your own posts? You can just edit the first one.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
It wasn't moved to the reverse, it started on the reverse in 1938. It was moved to the obverse in 1968.
I have a question about varieties. To me, varieties are simply a unique combination of obverse and reverse dies. However, I see many long-time collectors referring to coin defects and even die states as "varieties". I would not call a 1937-D 3-Legged Buffalo Nickel a "variety" but most do. I would also not call a "hot lips" Morgan Dollar a variety, but most do. I would not call a "bearded goddess" Bust Half a variety, but most do.
What is the true definition of variety? Do the examples that I mention classify as a "variety" under your definition? why or why not?
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
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Varieties are obv/Rev die combinations. However, that has long included early, mid and late die states. I suppose you could call them sub-varieties. But you're swimming against the tide if you want to redefine accepted terminology. Look at "original". It means "uncleaned" and usually includes toning which is not how they were "originally" made.
With respect to Varieties, many VAMs and Overton Varieties have characteristic die breaks. That ain't how the die was originally made.
This is a newbie thread. You can be here because you are a newbie newbie. Post this non-newbie stuff some place else where we newbies can continue to avoid learning it, though.
Sorry. I forgot myself.
I need to go anyway. My plumber is teaching me how to do heart surgery.
Not @Abehunter but a reason might be that few people read a thread they've previously opened all the way from Post 1 again. Most of us just pick up where we left off. So if I want people who have previously opened a thread to see my thoughts I add a new post, not just edit a previous one. YMMV.