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Nolan Ryan PSA grading stats..Unbelievable comparisons

Here is the pop report on Nolan Ryan cards 1971 - 1980 Topps vs OPC. The number differences are staggering:

1971 T PSA 8 = 587, PSA 9 = 31, PSA 10 = 0, Total Pop = 5427
1971 O PSA 8 = 33, PSA 9 = 7, PSA 10 = 2, Total pop = 259

1973 T PSA 8 = 853, PSA 9 = 137, PSA 10 = 6, Total Pop = 4919
1973 O PSA 8 = 25, PSA 9 = 4, PSA 10 = 0, Total pop = 161

1974 T PSA 8 = 1607, PSA 9 = 226, PSA 10 = 7, Total Pop = 5649
1974 O PSA 8 = 9, PSA 9 = 1, PSA 10 = 0, Total pop = 88

1975 T PSA 8 = 975, PSA 9 = 226, PSA 10 = 3, Total Pop = 5406
1975 O PSA 8 = 24, PSA 9 = 12, PSA 10 = 0, Total pop = 139

1976 T PSA 8 = 1770, PSA 9 = 272, PSA 10 = 10, Total Pop = 5951
1976 O PSA 8 = 7, PSA 9 = 1, PSA 10 = 1, Total pop = 65

1977 T PSA 8 = 1229, PSA 9 = 280, PSA 10 = 20, Total Pop = 4184
1977 O PSA 8 = 79, PSA 9 = 20, PSA 10 = 0, Total pop = 286

1978 T PSA 8 = 1229, PSA 9 = 127, PSA 10 = 3, Total Pop = 4287
1978 O PSA 8 = 315, PSA 9 = 122 PSA 10 = 2, Total pop = 709

1979 T PSA 8 = 2214, PSA 9 = 774, PSA 10 = 13, Total Pop = 5587
1979 O PSA 8 = 176, PSA 9 = 58, PSA 10 = 4, Total pop = 388

1980 T PSA 8 = 2311, PSA 9 = 840, PSA 10 = 36, Total Pop = 5582
1980 O PSA 8 = 124, PSA 9 = 71, PSA 10 = 11, Total pop = 306

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  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭

    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinspacks said:
    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

    Kind of. But the OPC's where so badly cut, most people don't even dream to send them in. 1974 and 1976 are definitely big outliers (rarer than normal). It would appear that 7.5% - 10% opc production compared to topps. just guessing.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭✭

    Psa pack population
    1974 opc 50 graded
    1974 topps 605 graded

    1976 opc 81 graded
    1976 topps 614 graded.

    Your 10% guess seems ok for that too

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:

    @coinspacks said:
    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

    Kind of. But the OPC's where so badly cut, most people don't even dream to send them in. 1974 and 1976 are definitely big outliers (rarer than normal). It would appear that 7.5% - 10% opc production compared to topps. just guessing.

    There’s also the fact that very few Americans collect OPC cards compared to Topps.

  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭

    Look at the pop on his ‘68 Venezuela Topps and ‘72 Venezuelan Stamp. Low low pops.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jayhawke said:
    Look at the pop on his ‘68 Venezuela Topps and ‘72 Venezuelan Stamp. Low low pops.

    almost too few to get a good read on the value, but i collect them.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    @olb31 said:

    @coinspacks said:
    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

    Kind of. But the OPC's where so badly cut, most people don't even dream to send them in. 1974 and 1976 are definitely big outliers (rarer than normal). It would appear that 7.5% - 10% opc production compared to topps. just guessing.

    There’s also the fact that very few Americans collect OPC cards compared to Topps.

    they would if they could. too hard to find them. you see the numbers, you think if you had a really nice 1973 opc ryan you just wouldn't get it graded because "americans don't collect opc"? doubtful, you don't have any nice ones to send in or you would. there just is any around to send in. Venezuelan cards, same thing, can't find any to grade.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 22, 2022 1:09PM

    @olb31 said:

    @PaulMaul said:

    @olb31 said:

    @coinspacks said:
    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

    Kind of. But the OPC's where so badly cut, most people don't even dream to send them in. 1974 and 1976 are definitely big outliers (rarer than normal). It would appear that 7.5% - 10% opc production compared to topps. just guessing.

    There’s also the fact that very few Americans collect OPC cards compared to Topps.

    they would if they could. too hard to find them. you see the numbers, you think if you had a really nice 1973 opc ryan you just wouldn't get it graded because "americans don't collect opc"? doubtful, you don't have any nice ones to send in or you would. there just is any around to send in. Venezuelan cards, same thing, can't find any to grade.

    I’m sure you are right that they are very rare in high grade.

    I can’t speak for people who look for cards to submit and then sell. But I have no interest in OPC, so I wouldn’t buy them in the first place. There are a lot of people who collect only the items they remember from their youth, and thus (if American) have no interest in OPC. That is pretty much a fact.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    @olb31 said:

    @PaulMaul said:

    @olb31 said:

    @coinspacks said:
    You think you can use these numbers to also represent the availability of unopened topps vs opc?
    I wonder of these numbers also represent the manufacturing proportion too.

    Kind of. But the OPC's where so badly cut, most people don't even dream to send them in. 1974 and 1976 are definitely big outliers (rarer than normal). It would appear that 7.5% - 10% opc production compared to topps. just guessing.

    There’s also the fact that very few Americans collect OPC cards compared to Topps.

    they would if they could. too hard to find them. you see the numbers, you think if you had a really nice 1973 opc ryan you just wouldn't get it graded because "americans don't collect opc"? doubtful, you don't have any nice ones to send in or you would. there just is any around to send in. Venezuelan cards, same thing, can't find any to grade.

    I’m sure you are right that they are very rare in high grade.

    I can’t speak for people who look for cards to submit and then sell. But I have no interest in OPC, so I wouldn’t buy them in the first place. There are a lot of people who collect only the items they remember from their youth, and thus (if American) have no interest in OPC. That is pretty much a fact.

    This.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:

    @jayhawke said:
    Look at the pop on his ‘68 Venezuela Topps and ‘72 Venezuelan Stamp. Low low pops.

    almost too few to get a good read on the value, but i collect them.

    Very few have been graded. If you ever see them, they will not last long on ebay.

  • GreenSneakersGreenSneakers Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2022 11:24AM

    @PaulMaul said:. There are a lot of people who collect only the items they remember from their youth, and thus (if American) have no interest in OPC. That is pretty much a fact.

    If you’re only talking about baseball, I agree 100%. If you expand to discuss hockey, though, I would say it isn’t.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2022 11:41AM

    @GreenSneakers said:

    @PaulMaul said:. There are a lot of people who collect only the items they remember from their youth, and thus (if American) have no interest in OPC. That is pretty much a fact.

    If you’re only talking about baseball, I agree 100%. If you expand to discuss hockey, though, I would say it isn’t.

    Well, OPC hockey (or rather Topps cards released only in Canada) was the only game in town pre-1968, so that is very different. Do you think Americans in large numbers are interested in both Topps and OPC hockey sets post 1968? Or actually more interested in OPC?

  • GreenSneakersGreenSneakers Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭

    I collected Topps baseball and hockey as a kid. As I got serious as an adult, I spot on agree that I’m really only interested in Topps baseball with the exception being registry sets that require another company (rookie sets with Fleer, for example).

    As a serious hockey collector, though, you can’t really get away from OPC. Fair point about the 60s, but a bit before my time. But yeah, for 70s and 80s stuff I have more Topps hockey than the average guy, but my cornerstone cards are now OPC too, even though I didn’t have any as a kid. It’s where both the value and the interest is.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hockey cards. opc vs topps

    opc seems to sale for more, but in most years topps has a much lower pop.

    Starting in 1986, the pop report reflects a decently significant difference in the number of cards graded. OPC looks to be at least double the amount of topps. In most cases. As you head into 1989 through 1991 topps really decreased their inventory. Very difficult to obtain 1989 topps.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • habs007habs007 Posts: 130 ✭✭✭

    They used to take mint OPC cards of HOF'ers down to Comisky Park in the 70's and burn them cause nobody wanted them , or was that Bee Gee records , it's been to long.

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