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What flaw is worse , or causes a more severe downgrade between these three..

Hello all,
In my online visual surveying of various coins graded by the top three grading outfits, I have seen wide discrepency
In the grading of the following three conditions and their resulting downgrades, or seemingly no downgrade at all.

Hairlines (not bag marks etc.)
Die polish marks /raised lines
And super squishy hard strikes (not complete but very close to die clashes )

Of the three conditions, from your personal experience what have you observed over time?

Thanks for any input. RoyO

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die polish and clashes are not in the same category as hairlines.

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    Mason -Thanks for a response ,but that was not an accurate
    answer to the specific question asked.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok. Sorry about that. Die polish and clashes are not defects but hairlines are and can get you a details grade.

    Is that better?

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    CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think clash marks can add character.

    Got Crust....y gold?
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    Yes , thanks Mason.

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    Roy0O0BannonRoy0O0Bannon Posts: 13
    edited December 12, 2022 5:04PM


    Charlotte dude , Is this considered a clash as well?

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    Anyone else care to chime in?

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    @Roy0O0Bannon said:
    Hello all,
    In my online visual surveying of various coins graded by the top three grading outfits, I have seen wide discrepency
    In the grading of the following three conditions and their resulting downgrades, or seemingly no downgrade at all.

    Hairlines (not bag marks etc.)
    Die polish marks /raised lines
    And super squishy hard strikes (not complete but very close to die clashes )

    Of the three conditions, from your personal experience what have you observed over time?

    Thanks for any input. RoyO

    Die polish marks, raised lines (if you are referring to die cracks), and die clashes will not affect the grade of a coin. Hairlines will lower the grade of a coin, and please elaborate (pictures?) on a "super squishy hard strike".

    Young Numismatist

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    As for the cent, I do not see any evidence of die clashes.

    Young Numismatist

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    Roy0O0BannonRoy0O0Bannon Posts: 13
    edited December 12, 2022 5:40PM

    Humming—
    This is the condition "super squishy hard strike". I am referring to,
    The uneven , wavy not flat fields, and the raised are area around but inside the rim. This rim issue can also be seen in the other 89 Lincoln I posted above.

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    @Roy0O0Bannon said:
    This is the condition "super squishy hard strike". I am referring to,
    The uneven , wavy not flat fields, and the raised are area around but inside the rim. This rim issue can also be seen in the other 89 Lincoln I posted above.

    This condition is very commonly found in 1982 (zinc) to 1989 Lincoln cents. My guess is it had something to do with bubbles forming underneath the zinc plating. It has nothing to do with die clashes to my knowledge.

    Young Numismatist

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    Roy0O0BannonRoy0O0Bannon Posts: 13
    edited December 12, 2022 6:26PM

    I see, prior to the copper plate step, interesting, so is it a downgradeable flaw? Eg. planchet flaw?

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