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Churchill Crown MS66

ajaanajaan Posts: 17,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 22, 2022 3:50PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know that's what the label says, but there's way too much reverse chatter for me to call it a 6. Didn't I sell you a 64/65 about a decade ago?

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,396 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I know that's what the label says, but there's way too much reverse chatter for me to call it a 6. Didn't I sell you a 64/65 about a decade ago?

    Perhaps but I have a difficult time remembering yesterday. I don't think PCGS would 66 the coin.


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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, that is way too much cheek and brow action on Churchie and too much in the fields on the obverse. I have seen a couple of 65s that were def. superior. I have the satin specimen/proof that is actually quite an attractive coin. If you go through many dealer stocks, you may find raw specimens that are superior for fractions of what graded specimens sell for.
    Interesting that an ordinary piece can be so ugly but the finest have their own sort of beauty.

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,396 ✭✭✭✭✭

    According to the well known seller of the coin it is a Specimen.


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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ajaan said:
    According to the well known seller of the coin it is a Specimen.

    Doesn't Satin VIP Specimen exhibit those weird die scratches all over the bust field? What i see in the NGC scan looks more like scuffs on the coin rather than the die scratches of the specimen. Plus with Specimen being silver, should be a relatively straight forward diagnostic, no?

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found an image of the Satin VIP to show what i mean:

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 23, 2022 11:04AM

    Correct. Those are NOT like the hairlines from die polish on the Satin Specimens. Not even close. The OP coin, and not being mean, would luck out at a "64", which puts it in the company of many THOUSANDS of coins nearly 60 years after striking!
    PS - without shooting me, can you PM me the seller name? I think I have an idea as to who.

    PPS - never mind, it was who I thought. maybe a "clerical error"? NOT

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems 7Jaguars wrote what was needed to be communicated... no further comments are needed

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ajaan said:

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    I know that's what the label says, but there's way too much reverse chatter for me to call it a 6. Didn't I sell you a 64/65 about a decade ago?

    Perhaps but I have a difficult time remembering yesterday. I don't think PCGS would 66 the coin.

    Found it! THIS ONE is a 64 graded by PCGS back in 2007 (my second ever order with PCGS)

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrific example Ajaan

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  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does anyone have a photo of the coin in the holder? It may be that the NGC photo of the reverse is swapped with that of another coin.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He does not picture either side in holder but has claimed them "Satin Specimen"
    The NGC site does picture them in slab, both obverse and reverse although there appears to be different lighting for each.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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