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Yesterday and earlier in the week, we got to see the end of two fabulous careers of

two very respected and liked players, HOFers. Congrats to both Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera and thanks for the memories!!

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    lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i think that cabrera is playing again next year.

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    congrats to Albert. one of the greatest hitters of the 21st century

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cabrera could barely play this year. he had 5 hr and scored 25 runs. the tigers don't want him. they will pay him off like bonilla got paid.

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    judgebuckjudgebuck Posts: 989 ✭✭✭

    When the topic said "the end of two fabulous careers," I thought it meant Pujois and Yadier Molina. Think Molina is a HOFer?

    Nine Gold Gloves, 2000+ hits, .277 B.A. Not bad for one of the best defensive catchers of all-time.

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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 9, 2022 4:58PM

    Whether he should or not, is a legit question, but Molina WILL get into the Hall. It may take 2-3 years depending on the ballot.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Molina, you are correct. I should have included him. Definite HOFer. Maybe not in the same light as Pujols and Cabrera, but he will be get in.

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @judgebuck said:
    When the topic said "the end of two fabulous careers," I thought it meant Pujois and Yadier Molina. Think Molina is a HOFer?

    Nine Gold Gloves, 2000+ hits, .277 B.A. Not bad for one of the best defensive catchers of all-time.

    He also has 2 World Series rings.

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    Kepper19Kepper19 Posts: 315 ✭✭✭

    @judgebuck said:
    When the topic said "the end of two fabulous careers," I thought it meant Pujois and Yadier Molina. Think Molina is a HOFer?

    Nine Gold Gloves, 2000+ hits, .277 B.A. Not bad for one of the best defensive catchers of all-time.

    I find it HILARIOUS when people ask if Molina is a HOF'er...are people crazy? He is one of the best catchers all time? Tell me how he ISN'T a HOF'er?

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kepper19 said:

    @judgebuck said:
    When the topic said "the end of two fabulous careers," I thought it meant Pujois and Yadier Molina. Think Molina is a HOFer?

    Nine Gold Gloves, 2000+ hits, .277 B.A. Not bad for one of the best defensive catchers of all-time.

    I find it HILARIOUS when people ask if Molina is a HOF'er...are people crazy? He is one of the best catchers all time? Tell me how he ISN'T a HOF'er?

    Molina was a below average hitter. Take away his 2012 and 2013 seasons, and what's left is pretty darn unimpressive. Even with those seasons, he looks a lot like Jim Sundberg. Defensively not a lot to distinguish him from Boone, Sundberg, Carter, and Rodriguez, and Carter and Rodriguez could actually hit! He'll probably get in, but his defense really wasn't special enough to make up for his lack of offense.

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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭✭

    Molina is a first-ballot lock for the HOF. If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the voting criteria.

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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He'll get in but his rep far exceeds his output. .399 career slugging? That's.... terrible.

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    JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shagrotn77 said:
    Molina is a first-ballot lock for the HOF. If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the voting criteria.

    Nobody understands the voting criteria.

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    lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭

    Molina is one case where I would throw out offensive statistics. One of the greatest defensive catchers of all time. If Mike Piazza can make it with superior offensive statistics and average-at-best defensive statistics, then Molina should get the benefit of the opposite.

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @shagrotn77 said:
    Molina is a first-ballot lock for the HOF. If you don't agree, you simply don't understand the voting criteria.

    I'll cop to that. I have no idea what makes Harold Baines and Jim Kaat HoFers and Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens not, or, if you have a bias against those two, Bobby Grich and Kevin Brown not.

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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2022 5:47PM

    My 2 cents….Based on the way they are now letting people in the Hall….Garvey, Munson, Mattingly, Will Clark and others belong on. Each of these 4 players was better than many recently elected and each of them was one of the best players of their era.

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