@coinkat said:
Dammit... this is exactly what happens if you are not an English major. And for those of you who are... Figure it out and tell me what I wrote.
Here's a potential version:
"Do you feel it is wrong for one collector to monopolize a particular coin that would be an especially meaningful addition to another collector's collection or uniquely benefit another collector's specific mission in the hobby?"
@JBK said:
It has to do with you having decided that a particular coin you own would have been better off in another collector's collection.
This makes no sense, why would I decide a coin I own is better off in another collection? If I own its mine. If you want one go buy one, I'm not selling you mine.
It makes perfect sense. It's not about a widget - even an expensive one - that can be purchased at will. it's about a Holy Grail sort of coin.
It is sometimes the case that one collector (Collector A) owns a coin or other collectable that is excessively rare or unique, and it's rarity or uniqueness is not even necessarily important to them or central to their collection.
Another collector (Collector B ) has dedicated his collecting life to assembling a collection that will never be complete without the item in question.
This scenario has nothing to with other people judging Collector A. It has do with Collector A and his own feelings about the situation. Does he feel badly that his ownership of that item is keeping Collector B from completing his mission?
@coinkat said:
Dammit... this is exactly what happens if you are not an English major. And for those of you who are... Figure it out and tell me what I wrote.
Here's a potential version:
"Do you feel it is wrong for one collector to monopolize a particular coin that would be an especially meaningful addition to another collector's collection or uniquely benefit another collector's specific mission in the hobby?"
Trading one run-on for another?
Not. At. All.
But I can break it down into smaller words if that would make it easier.
@JBK said:
It makes perfect sense. It's not about a widget - even an expensive one - that can be purchased at will. it's about a Holy Grail sort of coin.
It is sometimes the case that one collector (Collector A) owns a coin or other collectable that is excessively rare or unique, and it's rarity or uniqueness is not even necessarily important to them or central to their collection.
Another collector (Collector B ) has dedicated his collecting life to assembling a collection that will never be complete without the item in question.
This scenario has nothing to with other people judging Collector A. It has do with Collector A and his own feelings about the situation. Does he feel badly that his ownership of that item is keeping Collector B from completing his mission?
It still makes no sense. What do I care that Collector B has dedicated his life to a goal. That sounds like a collector B problem.
Here is a great example I don't collect ASE but I have 2 2019 S Enhanced Reverse Proof coins, so if you collect these and don't have a 2019 S ERP, well that's a YOU problem. Its the same if your life's goal is to collect something that another owns. You made the wrong choice in your lifes goal. Again a you problem not a me problem.
I know what the OP meant, I agree that is sometimes a shame when someone isn’t working on a set but hoards the keys when people working on sets can’t get the keys because none are available except the ones being hoarded. But I don’t dwell on it and think it is a big deal. If it is too easy to complete a set, the sets will be become boring to complete.
This is a good question and is fair to ask even if I have an answer that you likely will not like. There are those items that one seeks and buys mainly because they are of interest and part of a collecting objective. And there are those items... which are interesting... and are bought because they are interesting. And one just may not have a complete appreciation for what it may be at that time. While I may not have an inherent right to own a coin, I hope we can at least agree that the one who undertakes the purchase and whatever risk there is associated with that purchase exercises the full right of ownership of that coin. The issue here is simply is whether that coin would be better suited in a collection of another collector mainly because that collection has greater numismatic significance. And the addition of that coin adds to its significance.
@JBK said:
It makes perfect sense. It's not about a widget - even an expensive one - that can be purchased at will. it's about a Holy Grail sort of coin.
It is sometimes the case that one collector (Collector A) owns a coin or other collectable that is excessively rare or unique, and it's rarity or uniqueness is not even necessarily important to them or central to their collection.
Another collector (Collector B ) has dedicated his collecting life to assembling a collection that will never be complete without the item in question.
This scenario has nothing to with other people judging Collector A. It has do with Collector A and his own feelings about the situation. Does he feel badly that his ownership of that item is keeping Collector B from completing his mission?
It still makes no sense. What do I care that Collector B has dedicated his life to a goal. That sounds like a collector B problem.
Here is a great example I don't collect ASE but I have 2 2019 S Enhanced Reverse Proof coins, so if you collect these and don't have a 2019 S ERP, well that's a YOU problem. Its the same if your life's goal is to collect something that another owns. You made the wrong choice in your lifes goal. Again a you problem not a me problem.
It still makes perfect sense because you obviously understand it, and you've answered the question. No, you would not feel guilty. Case close. Thanks for your input.
It still makes perfect sense because you obviously understand it, and you've answered the question. No, you would not feel guilty. Case close. Thanks for your input.
Let me clarify as English is not my first language.
The Original Post makes no sense. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly give up one of their prized coins, because some one else wants it?
You snooze, you lose.
Finders keepers, losers weepers.
First come first served.
Survival of the fittest and fastest.
He won, you lost. He’s the winner, you’re the loser.
And so on. I’m sure we all have at least one coin that someone else wants.
That's the thrill of the hunt, you win some and lose some. I think many fellas out there can say the same thing about girls with other guys... ....if she only landed elsewhere...
It still makes perfect sense because you obviously understand it, and you've answered the question. No, you would not feel guilty. Case close. Thanks for your input.
Let me clarify as English is not my first language.
You could have fooled me.
The Original Post makes no sense. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly give up one of their prized coins, because some one else wants it?
I took it to mean that the collector who has the coin does not necessarily consider it a prized coin. It's mainly "prized" by the collector who needs it to complete a set.
For example, let's say I have what I consider to be just a type coin that happened to be the Holy Grail for someone else. I'd sell it to that other collector and buy myself another coin for my type set. But then, I'm a humanitarian who always seeks to help others.
No anger for those strong hands for my dire need & difficulties completing my set and if I happened to hoard a few duplicates of those in desperate need to complete theirs ….. then tough draw!
No guilt whatsoever here …. don’t look at me.
Go figure and get it somewhere else.
Ideals ….. significance are all varies; been dealt with delta cards myself.
Who says should do what to whom?
It still makes perfect sense because you obviously understand it, and you've answered the question. No, you would not feel guilty. Case close. Thanks for your input.
Let me clarify as English is not my first language.
You could have fooled me.
The Original Post makes no sense. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly give up one of their prized coins, because some one else wants it?
I took it to mean that the collector who has the coin does not necessarily consider it a prized coin. It's mainly "prized" by the collector who needs it to complete a set.
For example, let's say I have what I consider to be just a type coin that happened to be the Holy Grail for someone else. I'd sell it to that other collector and buy myself another coin for my type set. But then, I'm a humanitarian who always seeks to help others.
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Trading one run-on for another?
It makes perfect sense. It's not about a widget - even an expensive one - that can be purchased at will. it's about a Holy Grail sort of coin.
It is sometimes the case that one collector (Collector A) owns a coin or other collectable that is excessively rare or unique, and it's rarity or uniqueness is not even necessarily important to them or central to their collection.
Another collector (Collector B ) has dedicated his collecting life to assembling a collection that will never be complete without the item in question.
This scenario has nothing to with other people judging Collector A. It has do with Collector A and his own feelings about the situation. Does he feel badly that his ownership of that item is keeping Collector B from completing his mission?
Not. At. All.
But I can break it down into smaller words if that would make it easier.
I am the the person responsible for initiating this question. Can we please end this now?
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Its a compelling question and I know of a number of people who would seek to send a rarity where it would mean the most.
But. I agree, I don't think the forum is up to the task today.
It still makes no sense. What do I care that Collector B has dedicated his life to a goal. That sounds like a collector B problem.
Here is a great example I don't collect ASE but I have 2 2019 S Enhanced Reverse Proof coins, so if you collect these and don't have a 2019 S ERP, well that's a YOU problem. Its the same if your life's goal is to collect something that another owns. You made the wrong choice in your lifes goal. Again a you problem not a me problem.
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
@JBK
It certainly is a most unusual question and I appreciate your comments-thanks
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Well I have a full set of Liberty Nickels except for the 1913, its been my last months goal to get the 1913, so please send it to me!!
See how the above MAKES 0 sense. Why should someone give you something because you really really want it.
I want a new Delorean. I'm going to ask for one as I really really really want it and deserve it
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
I know what the OP meant, I agree that is sometimes a shame when someone isn’t working on a set but hoards the keys when people working on sets can’t get the keys because none are available except the ones being hoarded. But I don’t dwell on it and think it is a big deal. If it is too easy to complete a set, the sets will be become boring to complete.
Mr_Spud
NO
It still makes perfect sense because you obviously understand it, and you've answered the question. No, you would not feel guilty. Case close. Thanks for your input.
Let me clarify as English is not my first language.
The Original Post makes no sense. Why would anyone in their right mind willingly give up one of their prized coins, because some one else wants it?
My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins
You snooze, you lose.
Finders keepers, losers weepers.
First come first served.
Survival of the fittest and fastest.
He won, you lost. He’s the winner, you’re the loser.
And so on. I’m sure we all have at least one coin that someone else wants.
That's the thrill of the hunt, you win some and lose some. I think many fellas out there can say the same thing about girls with other guys... ....if she only landed elsewhere...
long story short, life's not fair.
All of this falls into the new "Woke" generation. If I can't have it, you don't need it!!
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You could have fooled me.
I took it to mean that the collector who has the coin does not necessarily consider it a prized coin. It's mainly "prized" by the collector who needs it to complete a set.
For example, let's say I have what I consider to be just a type coin that happened to be the Holy Grail for someone else. I'd sell it to that other collector and buy myself another coin for my type set. But then, I'm a humanitarian who always seeks to help others.
There is no affirmative action on this hobby.
No anger for those strong hands for my dire need & difficulties completing my set and if I happened to hoard a few duplicates of those in desperate need to complete theirs ….. then tough draw!
No guilt whatsoever here …. don’t look at me.
Go figure and get it somewhere else.
Ideals ….. significance are all varies; been dealt with delta cards myself.
Who says should do what to whom?
That's a wrap...Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Time to move on
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.