Queen Elizabeth passed
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Unfortunately she passed away today. Age 96. Longest reining monarch ever.
Will the UK countries stop issuing coins with her image immediately?
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God save the King!
I’m curious how many countries use/used her image on their coins and currency.
Dozens ?
Canada, Australia, New Zealand, use her image presently. Probably others as well. In the past, many more.
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Usually, the coins are minted until the end of the year. Get Ready for King Charles coins in 2023.
Will be interesting for English coin collectors - the first new monarch on coinage since 1953.
Hypothetically, if Charles passed away before they minted any coins with his portrait, would the Royal Mint skip right to the next king?
I posted the message below in the Lightside forum as well in response to QE2's passing. In response to an earlier post in this thread, I believe some other countries with the monarch's image on them as well include Bermuda, the Bermuda, Jamaica, and I'm sure others I'll think of later :
My heart goes out to the Royal Family & British citizens. I'm not a fanatic of the monarchy, but appreciate the stability & grace she brought her country for 70 years.
2023 will be an interesting year for Darkside coinage. Will the UK, Canada & others try to issue new coins this year as in 1947 with a special privy mark (i.e. Maple Leaf, etc) with either a 2022 or 2023 date? How long would it usually take to create the dies & mint new coins for circulation? Or do you think the various Mints already have them in place & just need to tweak the date & let the presses rip?
Personally, I'd like to see now-King Charles abdicate the throne in favor of his son, but I doubt he'd do it (or at least not right away) after waiting all this time for his place in history & face on coinage. But maybe once that's done, he won't hang onto the throne as long as his Mom? Makes for interesting possibilities in the next few years for Commonwealth coinage!
I'd be surprised if the mints hadn't quietly designed a Charles bust and have it waiting. It's like how newspapers keep filed obits for famous people so they will be mostly ready when they pass.
Of England/Great Britain. Louis XIV reigned 72 years, although the first 9 were with a Regent.
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Yes, much as no Edward VIII were ever minted for circulation before he bailed.
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Does the Royal Mint start with a Coronation coin in gold or what? My condolences to our friends across the pond. Peace Roy
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Given the proliferation of product from RCM and Royal Mint, I think some sort of special stuff is a foregone conclusion.
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NEXT question............... will Whitman and other manufacturers take the opportunity to create new Darkside folders starting with the new ruler (i.e. a "natural break"), or tweak/re-configure future printing of existing ones to include holes for the new obverse portrait & King's coinage going-forward until the existing holes are filled before doing so?
Saddened to see her passing, but exciting to see a new monarch. Interesting times.
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An interesting article on the subject, courtesy of Investing.com:
Canadian Coins and $20 Bills: What Happens Now that The Queen is Dead?
__No, our current $20 Canadian banknotes - not to mention the loonie, toonie, quarters and plenty of other change - won’t suddenly become obsolete, now that Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Great Britain and Canada has passed away, according to spokespersons, “peacefully at Balmoral House this afternoon”.
The queen has been featured on Canadian bank notes since 1935, and it’s certainly the end of an era.
While Prince Charles is now, with immediate effect since the passing of the Queen, the monarch of Great Britain and the head of the commonwealth, the Royal Mint and the Bank of Canada do not have a ready arsenal of Prince Charles Printed coins and banknotes ready at their disposal.
As per a spokesperson quoted by the National Post, “Since choosing which effigy appears on future Canadian coins goes beyond our mandate, the Mint has not produced any advance tooling depicting a future, anticipated monarch.”
For starters, the currency would also need to be minted or printed with the name of the monarch, and the new monarch’s name may or not be King Charles III. Charles may not even adopt the name King Charles III, given that the nomenclature King Charles doesn’t have the most awe-inspiring record (the first one was beheaded, while the second had the less than dubious distinction of escaping opposition by hiding in an Elm Tree).
It’s a fair bet that the former Prince Charles may choose to go with one of his middle names: King George VII, continuing the tradition of his Hanoverian ancestors; King Arthur, reminiscent of the mythical Briton King; or even King Philip.
Secondly, the Royal Mint’s turnaround is extremely quick: coins can go from drawing to mint in a matter of days; the most significant delay is likely to be the Royal Family’s approval on the new portrait. The Queen has rejected Canadian designs in the past.
The Bank of Canada, which produces banknotes, will be a little slower: the portrait of the new Monarch will be implemented whenever the Bank of Canada plans a new design for the $20 bill.
Eventually however, the old currency will gradually be phased out and removed from circulation when worn out, although they will still remain legal tender.
In the near future, Canada will have the new monarch on its notes and coins - although it may not be a popular proposition with Canadians: the National Post notes that while 55 per cent of Canadians were supportive of Canada continuing to recognize Queen Elizabeth, “by swearing oaths to her, putting her on currency and recognizing her as official head of state,” only 34 per cent of Canadians were in favor of doing the same under the former Prince Charles.
In another interesting piece of tradition, when the new $20 notes are printed, the new Monarch will be facing right instead of left. The design of coins is determined by a tradition going back at least to the time of Charles II (the Charles of the Elm Tree), which stipulates that the direction in which the head faces should alternate between the coinage of successive monarchs. _
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RIP Queen Elizabeth.
Rumors have it now that he will indeed use the name King Charles III...............
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Coins in my collection with the image of Queen Elizabeth II
Bermuda
Canada
Belize
Cayman Islands
Falkland Islands
Guernsey
Isle of Man
Australia
Solomon Islands
Fiji
United Kingdom
…and currency
St Helena
Gibraltar
East Caribbean
Jersey
Isle of Man
Canada
Bahamas
I believe the 14 Commonwealth Realms have the monarch on their coins, as well as the remaining parts of the British empire (such as Isle of Man, Falkland Islands, etc.)
I have noticed Queen Elizabeth's portrait has changed through the years. I have sold several QEII British Commonwealth coins in the past and now have only Canadian coins.
Not all of them. The Bahamas, Jamaica and Papua New Guinea all don't normally have the monarch's portrait on the obverse. And the smaller Caribbean islands don't have coins of their own at all, but use Eastern Caribbean States monetary union coins (which do bear the monarch's portrait).
All of the dependencies and overseas territories that issue coins, issue coins with the royal portrait.
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Yup, no queen on Jamaica or Bahamas, forgot about that as I have been to those countries!
One of my favorite Canadian coins!
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My Queen (on both sides) coin:
I'll miss her teachings and her shyness in glasses.
I liked them.