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Ranking every NFL Hall of Fame quarterback

coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

Top 20
1.Montana
2. Peyton Manning
3. Unitas
4. Favre
5. Marino
6. Elway
7. Graham
8. Baugh
9. Bradshaw
10. Staubach
11. Young
12. Starr
13. Aikman
14. Stabler
15. Tarkenton
16. Warner
17. Tittle
18. Namath
19. Moon
20. Fouts

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-every-nfl-hall-of-fame-quarterback-peyton-manning-joe-montana-johnny-unitas-vie-for-top-spot/

Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

Ignore list -Basebal21

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2022 5:16AM

    Warren Moon below Namath? Stabauch below Bradshaw? LOL OK

    That list needs some major reorganization because it's wrong on so many levels

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    what @perkdog said in CAPITAL LETTERS.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

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  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2022 6:21AM

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Brady isn't in the HOF.

    I think the list is pretty accurate, although I would put Fouts higher.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2022 6:25AM

    @coolstanley said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Brady isn't in the HOF.

    I think the list is pretty accurate, although I would put Fouts higher.

    Are you being serious? I gave you an lol.

    If you are serious I'm going to be disappointed I can't give you another lol

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @coolstanley said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Brady isn't in the HOF.

    I think the list is pretty accurate, although I would put Fouts higher.

    Are you being serious? I gave you an lol.

    If you are serious I'm going to be disappointed I can't give you another lol

    Is CBS Sports not reputable? Its all opinions anyway, and everyone has one.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok Brady not yet in HOF.

    The list still sucks.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coolstanley said:

    @perkdog said:

    @coolstanley said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Brady isn't in the HOF.

    I think the list is pretty accurate, although I would put Fouts higher.

    Are you being serious? I gave you an lol.

    If you are serious I'm going to be disappointed I can't give you another lol

    Is CBS Sports not reputable? Its all opinions anyway, and everyone has one.

    Cbs might be overall but not every writer is reputable. I mean yes I understand we all have opinions like Montana over Brady or vice versa is a reasonable debate but Bradshaw over Stabauch is not, no matter how you look at it

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @coolstanley said:

    @perkdog said:

    @coolstanley said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Brady isn't in the HOF.

    I think the list is pretty accurate, although I would put Fouts higher.

    Are you being serious? I gave you an lol.

    If you are serious I'm going to be disappointed I can't give you another lol

    Is CBS Sports not reputable? Its all opinions anyway, and everyone has one.

    Cbs might be overall but not every writer is reputable. I mean yes I understand we all have opinions like Montana over Brady or vice versa is a reasonable debate but Bradshaw over Stabauch is not, no matter how you look at it

    Disagree. What did Staubach accomplish that Bradshaw did not? Bradshaw called his own plays and Held many post-season records when he retired. Both are first ballot HOF'ers.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fruity pebbles are going to shoot out of dallas' nose when he opens up this thread

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    fruity pebbles are going to shoot out of dallas' nose when he opens up this thread

    ...
    Dallas likes to be tagged in a thread if his opinions are being discussed. It leads to untold adventures...

    I'm being serious when I ask...who is the QB that @dallasactuary considers the GOAT? I can't remember. Was it Ken Anderson? The coffee achiever?
    https://youtu.be/ybNF2wXJtjI
    PS this commercial has a cameo by Kurt Vonnegut. Have I told my so funny, probably not, Vonnegut story here? I'm sure I have. Anyway...

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    fruity pebbles are going to shoot out of dallas' nose when he opens up this thread

    ...
    Dallas likes to be tagged in a thread if his opinions are being discussed. It leads to untold adventures...

    I'm being serious when I ask...who is the QB that @dallasactuary considers the GOAT? I can't remember. Was it Ken Anderson? The coffee achiever?
    https://youtu.be/ybNF2wXJtjI
    PS this commercial has a cameo by Kurt Vonnegut. Have I told my so funny, probably not, Vonnegut story here? I'm sure I have. Anyway...

    He is a huge Ken Anderson guy

  • LandrysFedoraLandrysFedora Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fouts seems too low for me at 20. Maybe because he never won a ring? I'm sure that is a factor taken into consideration. But then again Marino is 5 and I won't argue with him being there.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Underrated

    1. Len Dawson
      Key stats: Super Bowl IV MVP; 3-time AFL champion; 7-time AFL leader in completion percentage; 4-time AFL leader in TD passes

    Why he's No. 22: Dawson won AFL titles with the Texans and Chiefs before leading Kansas City to the AFL's second Super Bowl win over the NFL's champion. While he wasn't as prolific following the AFL-NFL merge, Dawson was named to his seventh Pro Bowl at age 36 in 1971. In the '71 playoffs, he threw for 246 yards and a touchdown against Miami's fabled "No Name" defense in the longest game in NFL history.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LandrysFedora said:
    Fouts seems too low for me at 20. Maybe because he never won a ring? I'm sure that is a factor taken into consideration. But then again Marino is 5 and I won't argue with him being there.

    Fouts is surely ahead of Namath

  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    That list needs some major reorganization because it's wrong on so many levels

    I really have nothing to add since perk nailed it in the first response. I also feel no need to address Ken Anderson or any of the other glaring errors of omission or commission in that absurd list; to do so would dignify the list as worthy of a response when clearly it is not.

    I will just say, for the 100th or so time, that if you ever say of a football player, QB or otherwise, that "he" won a Super Bowl, then you are the problem, and the reason why laughable lists like this one get created.

    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nah, actually anyone who writes 'Lynn Swann sucks' is the problem.

    There's no reason to mention Ken Anderson if you actually read the article. This list is HOFers only :|

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nah, the people who don't understand why I say "Lynn Swann sucks" are the problem; and they're the same people who say "he" won a Super Bowl.

    Anyone reading that list who nods their head and says "yup, Tarkenton is ranked a couple spots below Aikman, and further below Bradshaw, that sounds about right" does not (forgive me perk) understand how football works. The level of ignorance required to reach that conclusion is absolutely jaw-dropping and one wonders how the people who reach that conclusion manage to feed themselves. Sure, they can get jobs at CBS, but how do they operate a knife and fork?

    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
  • LandrysFedoraLandrysFedora Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Do you put Brady at 1 once in the HOF?

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LandrysFedora said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Do you put Brady at 1 once in the HOF?

    ...
    I do.

    Who else is up soon for the hall? Roethlisberger...many will have him up there. Who does he replace? Philip Rivers will be in the hall. Does he make anyone's top 20?

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And what about Aaron Rodgers, where does he belong on the list? Speaking of which, I found the perfect bust for him when he gets inducted.

  • LandrysFedoraLandrysFedora Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @LandrysFedora said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Do you put Brady at 1 once in the HOF?

    ...
    I do.

    Who else is up soon for the hall? Roethlisberger...many will have him up there. Who does he replace? Philip Rivers will be in the hall. Does he make anyone's top 20?

    If it was me I would replace Warner with Roethlisberger. Brady would go to #1. And Rivers would not be on that list as it is now.

  • LandrysFedoraLandrysFedora Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    And what about Aaron Rodgers, where does he belong on the list? Speaking of which, I found the perfect bust for him when he gets inducted.

    I would put Aaron in the top 10.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 3, 2022 8:31PM

    They got #1 right.

  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    Top 20

    1. Montana
    2. Otto
    3. Manning
    4. Unitas
    5. Staubach
    6. Favre
    7. Starr
    8. Young
    9. Elway
    10. Baugh
    11. Marino
    12. Tarkenton
    13. Aikman
    14. Bradshaw
    15. Fouts
    16. Warner
    17. Tittle
    18. Moon
    19. Stabler
      20 Namath
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LandrysFedora said:

    @JoeBanzai said:
    Tarkenton should be much higher.

    No Tom Brady?

    Bradshaw doesn't belong here.

    Do you put Brady at 1 once in the HOF?

    No.

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  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coolstanley said:
    Top 20
    1.Montana
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Unitas
    4. Favre
    5. Marino
    6. Elway
    7. Graham
    8. Baugh
    9. Bradshaw
    10. Staubach
    11. Young
    12. Starr
    13. Aikman
    14. Stabler
    15. Tarkenton
    16. Warner
    17. Tittle
    18. Namath
    19. Moon
    20. Fouts

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-every-nfl-hall-of-fame-quarterback-peyton-manning-joe-montana-johnny-unitas-vie-for-top-spot/

    Just for fun I went to pro-football-reference.com and looked at the list for all-time approximate value. The list includes the top 250 players plus ties. Approximate value is grossly equivalent to WAR for baseball in that it attempts to be a "one size fits all" number which compares players across positions and eras. Regardless of its worth, it is a yardstick to compare this list. Six of the top ten are quarterbacks, with Brady far above Brees for first place (316 to 277) and that the non-quarterbacks in the top ten are Jerry Rice, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, and Ray Lewis.

    So I'm going to repeat this list with the rankings on the AV Career list:

    1.Montana 34
    2. Peyton Manning 3
    3. Unitas 79
    4. Favre 4
    5. Marino 12
    6. Elway 15
    7. Graham <250
    8. Baugh <250
    9. Bradshaw 94
    10. Staubach 167
    11. Young 28
    12. Starr <250
    13. Aikman 217
    14. Stabler 234
    15. Tarkenton 6
    16. Warner <250
    17. Tittle <250
    18. Namath <250
    19. Moon 36
    20. Fouts 36

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont think Aikman or Namath belong on any top 20 QB lists.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So strictly going with AV list Len Dawson is ahead of
    Bradshaw
    Kelly
    Staubach
    Aikman
    Stabler
    Starr
    Namath
    Tittle
    Baugh
    Graham

    and staked all of them to a 5 year head start as nobody saw how great Len would
    be as a QB. Short career but led his league in completion percentage 8 times,
    TD passes 4 times, passer rating 6 times.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:

    @coolstanley said:
    Top 20
    1.Montana
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Unitas
    4. Favre
    5. Marino
    6. Elway
    7. Graham
    8. Baugh
    9. Bradshaw
    10. Staubach
    11. Young
    12. Starr
    13. Aikman
    14. Stabler
    15. Tarkenton
    16. Warner
    17. Tittle
    18. Namath
    19. Moon
    20. Fouts

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-every-nfl-hall-of-fame-quarterback-peyton-manning-joe-montana-johnny-unitas-vie-for-top-spot/

    Just for fun I went to pro-football-reference.com and looked at the list for all-time approximate value. The list includes the top 250 players plus ties. Approximate value is grossly equivalent to WAR for baseball in that it attempts to be a "one size fits all" number which compares players across positions and eras. Regardless of its worth, it is a yardstick to compare this list. Six of the top ten are quarterbacks, with Brady far above Brees for first place (316 to 277) and that the non-quarterbacks in the top ten are Jerry Rice, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, and Ray Lewis.

    So I'm going to repeat this list with the rankings on the AV Career list:

    1.Montana 34
    2. Peyton Manning 3
    3. Unitas 79
    4. Favre 4
    5. Marino 12
    6. Elway 15
    7. Graham <250
    8. Baugh <250
    9. Bradshaw 94
    10. Staubach 167
    11. Young 28
    12. Starr <250
    13. Aikman 217
    14. Stabler 234
    15. Tarkenton 6
    16. Warner <250
    17. Tittle <250
    18. Namath <250
    19. Moon 36
    20. Fouts 36

    Here's what the Approximate value says, in it's order;
    1 Tom Brady
    2 Drew Brees
    3 Peyton Manning
    4 Brett Favre
    5 Fran Tarkenton
    6 Philip Rivers
    6 Aaron Rodgers
    7 Dan Marino
    8 Ben Roethlisberger
    9 John Elway
    10 Matt Ryan
    11 Eli Manning
    12 Steve Young
    13 Joe Montana
    14 Dan Fouts
    14 Warren Moon
    15 Ken Anderson
    16 Russell Wilson
    17 Mathew Stafford
    18 John Hadl

    Sorry if I missed someone, doing this in a hurry.

    Shorter career guys are screwed, but still a few surprises.

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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    They got #1 right.

    ..
    You edited your post again. Lol I saw the original. You slandered the real GOAT. 😂😂

  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Football-reference doesn't calculate AV prior to 1960, so it can't be used to compare QBs who played some or all of their careers before then.

    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dallasactuary said:
    Football-reference doesn't calculate AV prior to 1960, so it can't be used to compare QBs who played some or all of their careers before then.

    Ah, well that would make sense, so really only Namath and Warner aren't listed.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:

    @dallasactuary said:
    Football-reference doesn't calculate AV prior to 1960, so it can't be used to compare QBs who played some or all of their careers before then.

    Ah, well that would make sense, so really only Namath and Warner aren't listed.

    Namath and Warner had some HUGE years, but were hurt and had too short of careers to have a high career AV.

    Staubach suffers too.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,097 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the obsession with everything in sports and so much else in life whereby there is a superficial need for rankings? I am not comparing Otto Graham to Joe Montana... period. Both are great and played at different times making a comparison laughable. There are great QBs which warrant recognition but there is simply no upside in trying to rank them. This makes about as much sense as ranking Citizen Kane to The Godfather. Not doing that either even though others undertake the effort.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    What is the obsession with everything in sports and so much else in life whereby there is a superficial need for rankings? I am not comparing Otto Graham to Joe Montana... period. Both are great and played at different times making a comparison laughable. There are great QBs which warrant recognition but there is simply no upside in trying to rank them. This makes about as much sense as ranking Citizen Kane to The Godfather. Not doing that either even though others undertake the effort.

    It's fun for some of us, some just like to be fools. If you don't like it that's OK too.

    The arguments can never really be proven one way or the other, some of us even know that.

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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    blah! I just realized that not all hall of fame QB's were mentioned in the OP post so my list was just ranking the ones that were already mentioned. My revised list including those that I did not include...

    Top 20

    1. Montana
    2. Otto
    3. Manning
    4. Unitas
    5. Staubach
    6. Favre
    7. Starr
    8. Young
    9. Elway
    10. Baugh
    11. Marino
    12. Dawson
    13. Tarkenton
    14. Bradshaw
    15. Van Brocklin
    16. Griese
    17. Fouts
    18. Aikman
    19. Kelly
    20. Jurgenson
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