I spoke to Steve this week and we are going to put something together next week consisting of about 35 boxes. I will post details in the next few days and will start an official thread when everything is arranged. Even better news: Steve has been kind enough to provide the old 10% discount for this break, too!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I read some kind of explanation somewhere recently on this, but hoping someone could confirm. Terms for BBCE boxes:
FASC is of course FASC.
'Unopened Box' means it's a box that didn't come from a sealed case but has the original packs in the box.
'36 pack box' designates.... yeah it's a box with 36 packs in it, but the packs could have been combined from other boxes etc.. aka Frankensteined which allows for sequence dudes to really muck up a box.
Is this correct ?
Would these descriptors be included in the group break descriptions ?
@Ridethelightning said:
I read some kind of explanation somewhere recently on this, but hoping someone could confirm. Terms for BBCE boxes:
FASC is of course FASC.
'Unopened Box' means it's a box that didn't come from a sealed case but has the original packs in the box.
'36 pack box' designates.... yeah it's a box with 36 packs in it, but the packs could have been combined from other boxes etc.. aka Frankensteined which allows for sequence dudes to really muck up a box.
Is this correct ?
Would these descriptors be included in the group break descriptions ?
thank you anyone.
FASC means the box was pulled straight from a case by Steve and wrapped by BBCE.
All other boxes consist of 24 or 36 packs which have been deemed unopened and authentic by Steve. We are not breaking Fleer basketball here and collation within the pack for vintage boxes can fluctuate significantly from pack to pack. As many of those who have bought boxes from Steve in the past can also attest, even packs with stars on front and/or back can be found in non FASC boxes from BBCE.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Here is a list of the boxes we are requesting for the group break. Please keep in mind these per pack prices do not include the 10% discount so the prices will be reduced to reflect that when the break goes live. I think this list includes a nice mix of higher and lower priced boxes to fit all budgets, and we also have a few FASC boxes for those who want packs that have not seen the light of day since leaving the assembly line at the factory the year of issue. Steve is also going to offer wrapping options for the 1984 football rack box. This is not a final list and I will need to check with Steve to confirm all these boxes are still in stock.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Thanks Grote for the input. Inquiring here as I bought a BBCE 1983 Topps baseball cello box a few years ago (using this as an example as it's in the list above) and the box looked all fine, but.. mid way in the box, there were 3 packs with price stickers on them. No other packs, just those three. Sooo, the box was put together from other boxes. To note, and significant, there were no Boggs, Sandbergs, or Gwynns out of the whole box. It's possible, but percentage wise, not high to not get at least one of the three. If 1983 topps sequencing exists, this was a case of packs being removed and replaced.
There is a difference between 'unopened box' and '36 pack wax box'. They are not the same from BBCE and I believe BBCE stated this somewhere. Would not want to buy in on a '36 (or 24) pack box'.
@Ridethelightning said:
Thanks Grote for the input. Inquiring here as I bought a BBCE 1983 Topps baseball cello box a few years ago (using this as an example as it's in the list above) and the box looked all fine, but.. mid way in the box, there were 3 packs with price stickers on them. No other packs, just those three. Sooo, the box was put together from other boxes. To note, and significant, there were no Boggs, Sandbergs, or Gwynns out of the whole box. It's possible, but percentage wise, not high to not get at least one of the three. If 1983 topps sequencing exists, this was a case of packs being removed and replaced.
There is a difference between 'unopened box' and '36 pack wax box'. They are not the same from BBCE and I believe BBCE stated this somewhere. Would not want to buy in on a '36 (or 24) pack box'.
That designation you are referring to in the last part of your post is used for 86 Fleer basketball boxes where sequence is much stricter, not with any of these boxes.
A non FASC box simply consists of 24 or 36 authentic packs within the box. We have had great success over the years, both with stars showing on front or back of the packs in such boxes and stars pulled from within these packs, but if that's not your cup of tea you can simply request packs from the FASC (or OPC tape intact boxes which are essentially FASC) boxes instead should you decide to participate.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@grote15 said:
Here is a list of the boxes we are requesting for the group break. Please keep in mind these per pack prices do not include the 10% discount so the prices will be reduced to reflect that when the break goes live. I think this list includes a nice mix of higher and lower priced boxes to fit all budgets, and we also have a few FASC boxes for those who want packs that have not seen the light of day since leaving the assembly line at the factory the year of issue. Steve is also going to offer wrapping options for the 1984 football rack box. This is not a final list and I will need to check with Steve to confirm all these boxes are still in stock.
@grote15 said:
Here is a list of the boxes we are requesting for the group break. Please keep in mind these per pack prices do not include the 10% discount so the prices will be reduced to reflect that when the break goes live. I think this list includes a nice mix of higher and lower priced boxes to fit all budgets, and we also have a few FASC boxes for those who want packs that have not seen the light of day since leaving the assembly line at the factory the year of issue. Steve is also going to offer wrapping options for the 1984 football rack box. This is not a final list and I will need to check with Steve to confirm all these boxes are still in stock.
Good stuff. FYI the 81 football cello price looks like was divided by 36 and not 24.
Good catch. I calculated on the baseball part and copied and pasted someone else's post for the football and hockey boxes. I will revise. Thanks for the heads up.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Hockey and football pack prices updated. These will also be discounted by 10% in the break.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I assume an official sign-up thread will get posted when everything is confirmed? It's been awhile since we did one of these, so I'm looking forward to it.
@gemint said:
I assume an official sign-up thread will get posted when everything is confirmed? It's been awhile since we did one of these, so I'm looking forward to it.
Hi John, Yes the official thread will be posted separately when the break is live. It will be at the usual time of 9 pm EST and there will be a 2-pack limit per box for the first 48 hours, a 2-pack limit per box for the next 48 hours, before opening up after 96 hours. It will probably be next weekend or so, but I will post the exact date of the break in this thread before the official thread is posted.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@rcmb3220 said:
I think the 1980 super cello should be 166.67?
Correct...these are not final prices as all prices will also be updated to reflect the 10% discount before the break goes live.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@1954 said:
Not sure if this rip is going to happen, however I have several FASC boxes from the 1970's that I would sell for the rip. PM me if any interest.
Shane, by sell, do you mean consign to BBCE so they can handle fulfillment?
Update: I am in touch with Steve and should have further details by this weekend.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Just a heads up, the group break will be happening. I am working with Steve on the finalization of boxes for the break and will be posting details soon along with advance notice for the scheduled time of the break.
There will be one significant difference with this break in light of BBCE's new invoicing process (some of you who have sent items for authentication and wrapping in recent months may already be familiar with this process). Instead of sending payments via Paypal directly to BBCE, Steve has asked for all participants to email their contact info and shipping addresses to bbcexchange@sprintmail.com at the conclusion of the break so that BBCE can send you an invoice for payment. I will post these details again once the break goes live.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
curious what your thoughts are on this pack break on JRI earlier tonight. The pack appears to be fake as there are cards from other series, many of the cards do not look pack fresh, and there were no stars out of the 54 cards but I have never gone near a 1971 pack so what do i know. Any chance this was a legit pack?
The list of boxes has been finalized and the break will be going live on Friday night, 10/7, at 9 PM EST!! I will be posting a separate thread for pack reservations and details.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@cellofella said:
Just saw your post on VW&P FB group Tim...I'm in, if not too late
Steve Staley (cellofella)
Not at all, the official thread for pack reservations (and break rules and regulations) will be posted tomorrow night at 9 PM EST in this forum. Please post the packs you would like (up to 2 packs maximum per box for the first 48 hours) in that thread tomorrow night. Enjoy!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Official group break thread will be posted Friday night, 10/7 at 9 PM EST!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Those are not correct. Correct prices with 10% discount will be posted in the live thread.
Wax packs will be $105 per pack and cellos will be $150 per pack.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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I spoke to Steve this week and we are going to put something together next week consisting of about 35 boxes. I will post details in the next few days and will start an official thread when everything is arranged. Even better news: Steve has been kind enough to provide the old 10% discount for this break, too!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Even better news: Steve has been kind enough to provide the old 10% discount for this break, too!
great job guys, this should be fun. just like old times
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I read some kind of explanation somewhere recently on this, but hoping someone could confirm. Terms for BBCE boxes:
Is this correct ?
Would these descriptors be included in the group break descriptions ?
thank you anyone.
FASC means the box was pulled straight from a case by Steve and wrapped by BBCE.
All other boxes consist of 24 or 36 packs which have been deemed unopened and authentic by Steve. We are not breaking Fleer basketball here and collation within the pack for vintage boxes can fluctuate significantly from pack to pack. As many of those who have bought boxes from Steve in the past can also attest, even packs with stars on front and/or back can be found in non FASC boxes from BBCE.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Here is a list of the boxes we are requesting for the group break. Please keep in mind these per pack prices do not include the 10% discount so the prices will be reduced to reflect that when the break goes live. I think this list includes a nice mix of higher and lower priced boxes to fit all budgets, and we also have a few FASC boxes for those who want packs that have not seen the light of day since leaving the assembly line at the factory the year of issue. Steve is also going to offer wrapping options for the 1984 football rack box. This is not a final list and I will need to check with Steve to confirm all these boxes are still in stock.
Baseball
1972 OPC wax tape intact ($6,500) $180.56/pack
1977 Topps wax ($6,200) $172.22/pack
1978 Topps wax ($5,250) $145.83/pack
1978 Topps cello ($4,500) $187.50/pack
1979 Topps wax ($3,500) $97.22/pack
1979 Topps cello ($2,350) $97.92/pack
1980 Topps wax ($4,200) $116.67/pack
1980 Topps cello ($4,000) $166.67/pack
1980 Topps super cello ($4,000) $166.67/pack
1981 Topps wax ($750) $20.83/pack
1981 Topps wax FASC ($995) $27.69/pack
1981 Topps cello ($650) $27.08/pack
1981 Fleer wax ($219) $5.76/pack
1982 Topps wax ($700) $19.44/pack
1982 Topps cello ($695) $28.96/pack
1982 Fleer wax ($309) $12.88/pack
1982 OPC wax (tape intact) $20.14/pack
1982 Fleer wax FASC ($395) $16.46/pack
1982 Donruss wax ($279) $7.75/pack
1983 Topps wax ($825) $22.92/pack
1983 Topps cello ($1095) $45.63/pack
1983 Fleer wax ($359) $9.45/pack
1983 Donruss wax FASC ($495) $13.75/pack
1983 OPC wax ($925) $25.69/pack
Football
1978 Topps wax ($2500) $69.44/pack
1981 Topps cello ($3200) $133.33/pack
1982 Topps cello ($950) $39.58/pack
1983 Topps wax ($525) $14.58/pack
1984 Topps rack ($5250) $218.75/pack
Hockey
1976-77 Topps wax ($1800) $50/pack
1978-79 Topps wax ($1200) $33.33/pack
1984-85 Topps wax ($800) $22.22/pack
1987-88 Topps wax ($625) $17.36/pack
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
If it happens, i would get some.
Always looking to buy stars on top of rack packs and cellos 70’s to 85. Let me know what you have…
Thanks Grote for the input. Inquiring here as I bought a BBCE 1983 Topps baseball cello box a few years ago (using this as an example as it's in the list above) and the box looked all fine, but.. mid way in the box, there were 3 packs with price stickers on them. No other packs, just those three. Sooo, the box was put together from other boxes. To note, and significant, there were no Boggs, Sandbergs, or Gwynns out of the whole box. It's possible, but percentage wise, not high to not get at least one of the three. If 1983 topps sequencing exists, this was a case of packs being removed and replaced.
There is a difference between 'unopened box' and '36 pack wax box'. They are not the same from BBCE and I believe BBCE stated this somewhere. Would not want to buy in on a '36 (or 24) pack box'.
Grote will update, it’s almost a go!
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That designation you are referring to in the last part of your post is used for 86 Fleer basketball boxes where sequence is much stricter, not with any of these boxes.
A non FASC box simply consists of 24 or 36 authentic packs within the box. We have had great success over the years, both with stars showing on front or back of the packs in such boxes and stars pulled from within these packs, but if that's not your cup of tea you can simply request packs from the FASC (or OPC tape intact boxes which are essentially FASC) boxes instead should you decide to participate.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Good stuff. FYI the 81 football cello price looks like was divided by 36 and not 24.
Good catch. I calculated on the baseball part and copied and pasted someone else's post for the football and hockey boxes. I will revise. Thanks for the heads up.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Hockey and football pack prices updated. These will also be discounted by 10% in the break.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I assume an official sign-up thread will get posted when everything is confirmed? It's been awhile since we did one of these, so I'm looking forward to it.
Hi John, Yes the official thread will be posted separately when the break is live. It will be at the usual time of 9 pm EST and there will be a 2-pack limit per box for the first 48 hours, a 2-pack limit per box for the next 48 hours, before opening up after 96 hours. It will probably be next weekend or so, but I will post the exact date of the break in this thread before the official thread is posted.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I think the 1980 super cello should be 166.67?
Correct...these are not final prices as all prices will also be updated to reflect the 10% discount before the break goes live.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Any update on this?
Brian
Not sure if this rip is going to happen, however I have several FASC boxes from the 1970's that I would sell for the rip. PM me if any interest.
Shane, by sell, do you mean consign to BBCE so they can handle fulfillment?
Update: I am in touch with Steve and should have further details by this weekend.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Just a heads up, the group break will be happening. I am working with Steve on the finalization of boxes for the break and will be posting details soon along with advance notice for the scheduled time of the break.
There will be one significant difference with this break in light of BBCE's new invoicing process (some of you who have sent items for authentication and wrapping in recent months may already be familiar with this process). Instead of sending payments via Paypal directly to BBCE, Steve has asked for all participants to email their contact info and shipping addresses to bbcexchange@sprintmail.com at the conclusion of the break so that BBCE can send you an invoice for payment. I will post these details again once the break goes live.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
As always, much appreciated Tim!
curious what your thoughts are on this pack break on JRI earlier tonight. The pack appears to be fake as there are cards from other series, many of the cards do not look pack fresh, and there were no stars out of the 54 cards but I have never gone near a 1971 pack so what do i know. Any chance this was a legit pack?
Thanks Tim!
The list of boxes has been finalized and the break will be going live on Friday night, 10/7, at 9 PM EST!! I will be posting a separate thread for pack reservations and details.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Just saw your post on VW&P FB group Tim...I'm in, if not too late
Steve Staley (cellofella)
Not at all, the official thread for pack reservations (and break rules and regulations) will be posted tomorrow night at 9 PM EST in this forum. Please post the packs you would like (up to 2 packs maximum per box for the first 48 hours) in that thread tomorrow night. Enjoy!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Official group break thread will be posted Friday night, 10/7 at 9 PM EST!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Tim,
Can we please add Steve's 52 T bricks? Lol.
I need a 1965 nickel pack to complete my 60s run. Can we include a box of those?
I would love to participate!
count me in
"Tim,
Can we please add Steve's 52 T bricks? Lol."
Sorry guys I busted the 1952 brick like a year ago
1980 Topps wax ($4,200) $116.67/pack
1980 Topps cello ($4,000) $116.67/pack
1980 Topps super cello ($4,000) $116.67/pack
prices seem off for these?
1980 wax is right, the cellos are wrong because you need to divide by 24 instead of 36.
Those are not correct. Correct prices with 10% discount will be posted in the live thread.
Wax packs will be $105 per pack and cellos will be $150 per pack.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
waiting whilst I listen to Tim’s Mets.
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All Yaz Items 7+
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Did I leave anything out?
Thread is now live!
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1082365/the-official-2022-cu-bbce-group-break-is-now-live-please-post-your-pack-reservations-here/p1?new=1
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.