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RIP LEN DAWSON

He was 87.

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  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RIP

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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    He was the greatest QB of the 60's and hopefully starts getting recognized as such.

    RIP

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lenny was Alright…

  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭

    Too young to remember him playing, but Inside the NFL was a big part of my football education growing up. It's still amazing to think we used to wait until Wednesday each week to see someone breakdown highlights. His card is one of the favorites of my collection.

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭✭

    @ArtVandelay said:
    He was the greatest QB of the 60's and hopefully starts getting recognized as such.

    RIP

    You know, statistics do show that. He was more efficient than the others. Obviously a terrific player.

  • purduepetepurduepete Posts: 791 ✭✭✭

    Love the pic of him with the halftime heater and Fresca in the locker room!

    RIP to a fellow Boilermaker.

    Tom

    Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RIP

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  • Mikeygiggs_336699Mikeygiggs_336699 Posts: 154 ✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
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    Athletes of the past were so much cooler than a lot of the robot athletes of today. Great pic!

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  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭

    @Mickey71 said:

    @ArtVandelay said:
    He was the greatest QB of the 60's and hopefully starts getting recognized as such.

    RIP

    You know, statistics do show that. He was more efficient than the others. Obviously a terrific player.

    He won an AFL and an NFL championship in the 60's as well. Unitas often gets called the greatest QB in the 60's yet lacks even a single championship win in the 60's. In my humble opinion the top 5 QB's of the 60's look like this.

    1. Len Dawson
    2. Bart Starr
    3. Sonny Jurgeson
    4. Johnny Unitas
    5. Fran Tarkenton
  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2022 7:13PM

    @ArtVandelay said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @ArtVandelay said:
    He was the greatest QB of the 60's and hopefully starts getting recognized as such.

    RIP

    You know, statistics do show that. He was more efficient than the others. Obviously a terrific player.

    He won an AFL and an NFL championship in the 60's as well. Unitas often gets called the greatest QB in the 60's yet lacks even a single championship win in the 60's. In my humble opinion the top 5 QB's of the 60's look like this.

    1. Len Dawson
    2. Bart Starr
    3. Sonny Jurgeson
    4. Johnny Unitas
    5. Fran Tarkenton

    I don't disagree; but I will say it is hard to grade the QB's of the era. Starr was efficient but really had no yardage. I think I would put Unitas 2nd in the 60's. Unitas was better for the whole career than anyone up until the 80's. Then the video game stats started to show up. Now it's out of control.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArtVandelay said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @ArtVandelay said:
    He was the greatest QB of the 60's and hopefully starts getting recognized as such.

    RIP

    You know, statistics do show that. He was more efficient than the others. Obviously a terrific player.

    He won an AFL and an NFL championship in the 60's as well. Unitas often gets called the greatest QB in the 60's yet lacks even a single championship win in the 60's. In my humble opinion the top 5 QB's of the 60's look like this.

    1. Len Dawson
    2. Bart Starr
    3. Sonny Jurgeson
    4. Johnny Unitas
    5. Fran Tarkenton

    FWIW, by "Approximate Value" which is football's answer to WAR, it goes Tarkenton (by a huge margin), then John Hadl, Unitas, Dawson, and Jurgensen. Tarkenton's margin is so large that it seems to damp out any measurement error and suggests that he's pretty clearly the best. This also suggests that Hadl merits pretty serious consideration for the HoF, but that's a sandbox I don't play in.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
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    A classic. One for the ages.

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