Anyone going to the Burbank show?
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I missed the old Van Nuys shows when I first moved to SoCal. It will be nice to go to a show and not burn $20 in gas to get there,
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My cousin and I were just talking about this show. Looks like a good one and rare for SoCal.
https://www.burbankcardshow.com/
I am in the DC metro area and spoiled with Chantilly and Philly Shows and etc.
I think Rob Veres at Burbank Sportscard is running the show. I like Rob and plan to come out to support. I'm actually saving up for a show in Vegas the following week, but I may drop a few bucks on 1990's FB boxes I may find.
https://www.burbankcardshow.com/
Let us know how it turns out if you attend.
Seems kind of pricey @ $15 admission but worthwhile if PSA itself is their in person to submit in person.
Just got back. Was there from about 11:30-12:30, and it was PACKED. Shoulder to shoulder and lots of cool stuff. I only do vintage and picked up a few things. I was ready to get TF out of there though. I bet it will be a madhouse tomorrow.
How was the vintage selection? I was planning on going but saw the list of dealers and appeared to be mostly self promoting “you tubers” that have new shiny stuff.
So I went, I was going to drop some stuff for PSA but there was literally no place to park. Did they close the Convention Center lot for some reason? It was stupid. Might try tomorrow.
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Vintage was not great. I didn't see any vintage unopened for sale. I did pick up 3 items, but vintage seemed to mostly be Mantles of all years. Rookies and up. Fair amount of Aaron, Mays and Koufax too. Most of the vintage BB seemed to be 50s and 60s. I think I saw 20-30 from the 70s in total. About the only vintage FB I saw were Payton rookies, Jim Brown rookies and older (Unitas). Once again, not any 70s and some 80s (Montana rookies). A few BKBall spread around, but mostly Jordans from the 80s. One guy had a nice collection of Star bags and cards.
Parking was crazy. I got there about 11:45 and it was almost completely full. When I left at 12:45 folks were circling like vultures.
A lot of dealers recording themselves for their websites, etc... going through stacks folks were trying to sell. Annoying since I was trying to buy from one and had to wait while that nonsense happened.
Thank you for the update. Definitely a positive that there is a 3 day show in the Los Angeles area so props to Burbank sports cards for putting this on.
PSA IS accepting on site submissions, right? I just did a submission but have to drag my 3YO daughter along if i want to drop it off there...so any red flags, please tell me!
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They have a table set up. When I arrived yesterday the line was about 20 long. When I left there was no line. Seemed to get folks through quickly.
I have to tell you, that was a WILD card show for someone that hasn't been to one in 5 years. It made me honestly question what the industry and hobby look like in 10 years. SO much modern. 1/4 of the room felt like internet box breakers. There will always be a market for vintage keys but the average age was definitely in the low 30's or even younger (at least the patronage). Here's my big question. Even a middle class person can own a 1952 Mantle if you're ok in PSA 1-2ish grades. The artificial scarcity in >50 parallels makes me wonder if the have nots will ever be able to own desirable cards the way you can own a 51 Bowman Mays in low grade. The Common versions of current rookies do fine but it feels like they'll collapse at some point. because they're just not the same thing as the crazy rare one. I dunno. I'm just musing. I'm 43 so I'm not a geezer but I'm also not a young collector either. If set building is basically dead and there's only 100 available copies of the desirable card, box breaking seems like the only way to own a copy (which will eventually be sold anyway to finance more box breaking haha). Hey, I sold my #1 rated HOF signed 4 sport rookie collection and bought a house so maybe my 4 years out of the hobby has me sounding like a moron. But I was ABSOLUTELY fascinated.
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Interesting take and I tend to find myself in the same space with cards these ultra modern cards.
I went yesterday. It was amazing. The hobby market is very strong in SoCal and I think this will become the West Coast National. The lines were terrible to get in and the parking isn't as bad if you know the area. There is a lot of street parking just outside the hotel area. I heard they put Sold Out on the website to discourage people from coming but the line lasted until 3:30pm for a show the ended at 6pm.
The floor was packed and it was a younger crowd. The dealers ranged from local guys to national dealers from all over the West Coast. I saw a lot of money changing hands on both sides of the tables. A lot of young collectors were selling cards for big bucks to dealers, it makes me wonder if the NFT and Crypto money is moving into the hobby. I did a BGS sub for the show special. BGS was doing great business for the Raw Card Review service. Guys were buying and breaking cards and immediately bringing it to Beckett for a RCR. I didn't see too many of the new grading companies there like I did in Vegas, I saw a dealer with the Official SGC sub banner, but I don't think SGC was there.
If you go today, there is a lady at the back selling a Card Saver 1 type product. They were $10 for 500, I think that is a good price. Modern Boxes were ok for show prices, it seems that I see more retail product (mega, hanger, blasters) than hobby at shows. I ended up buying some 2021 football blasters to rip later today.
Great show. More than I expected. I like the fact it is in Burbank, but Rob needs to find a bigger venue. The Marriott is pretty much the biggest place in town, maybe the High School?
They definitely picked a place that was too small. I guess it’s the first show around LA since before the pandemic so maybe they underestimated turnout. It could have easily been in a place twice as big and still felt crowded.
I haven’t been to a show in a long time and it was fascinating. Lots of buying and selling going on for sure. I wonder if there were others like me disappointed there wasn’t more vintage, or maybe The hobby has just moved on from vintage and into modern. I am hopeful younger folks get into it for modern and their collections grow to older years.
Overall the show made me feel better about the future of the hobby. After watching all those Sports Card Radio vids on the 1986 F BKB Break, it was a downer for me. This show turned that around. The younger kids are smart about how they trade cards. I heard them talk in the Beckett line and I wish I was that smart about the hobby at that age. These guys were in the early 20's doing $2000+ buy/sell deals with dealers all day long.
There wasn't a lot of vintage, especially raw or unopened. I expect that will change at the next show. Word will get out about this show and maybe some of the East Coast dealers will make the trek to sunny SoCal.
I agree with all this. I overheard a couple 5-figure negotiations going on between dealers and young folks in their 20s and was blown away. Just so cool to see so much interest. Even saw folks older than me buying all modern (and I’m in my early 50s).
The hobby is strong and the companies seem to have learned from the late 80s which is good. That period almost lost me forever.
I liked that I seemed to be about the only guy looking for vintage. It was easy to find out which dealers really wanted to move them. I finally got a Ryan rookie (7) I’d been chasing for a while.
I will say it was kind of refreshing (not sure why) at how card-focused that show was. I didn't see but maybe one memorabilia dealer in the whole space. If I found the elusive Joe Cronin single signed baseball that's been on my want list for awhile I wouldn't have been disappointed but that show was for card people and that was cool.
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