Mattingly Pre-RCs
EDIT: Posting pictures to make this easier. Can anyone confirm whether these four cards are legit pre-RCs, or if they were produced later as novelty cards? Thanks!
I'm starting to put together a raw Mattingly master set and have a couple questions about his pre-RC cards. From looking around various databases, I've found seven total cards -
1980 South Atlantic League Greensboro
1981 Nashville Sounds (Arby's)
1981 Nashville Sounds Team Photo (Arby's)
1981 Nabisco Nashville Sounds
1982 Columbus Clippers Police
1982 TCMA Columbus Clippers
1984 TCMA Columbus Clippers (2 variations, w/ and w/out facsimile signature)
The PSA master set has four of those ('81 Sounds, '81 Sounds Team Photo, '82 Police, '82 TCMA). However, PSA does not seem to recognize or grade the '80 South Atlantic, the '81 Nabisco, or the '84 TCMA. The Beckett database doesn't list those three either. Are those three legitimate cards? If so, are there counterfeit issues (especially with the '80 South Atlantic or '81 Nabisco) that I need to be aware of as I'm looking for copies?
Any others I'm missing? I'm aware of the '83 Yankees photo album but I'm not considering that a card.
Thanks!
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I think there was an Arby's Donnie... I think; not 100% sure though....
Yup - that was the 1981 Nashville Sounds card and the team photo card. Edited in the original post.
Bumping this once - I've added pictures in the OP. Can anyone confirm whether these are real cards or fantasy pieces? Thanks!
Generally when there is oddballs, pre-rookies, etc that I'm curious about the first place I check is COMC. I didn't see any of these cards up there in both under sold or unsold. I then looked at the pop report on psa. There is a 1981 Nashville Sounds card, but it's sponsored by Arby's. Couldn't find anything about a Mattingly Greensboro card, or a black and white Clippers card.
The "Not To Be Sold" thing on the back seems suspect to me.
If these cards did exist, someone would've graded them by now. I'd chalk them up to a novelty. But hey, if you dig em, recognize they are novelty and they are affordable (that Clippers card was 10 bucks?) knock yourself out!
Thanks - they seemed suspect to me also. No graded copies and none on COMC, but they are listed in The Trading Card Database and copies have sold on eBay for a couple hundred each. Not that those are necessarily legit sales.