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1982 D? Quarter Altered(acid dipped),, Others+ 1985 P Quarter Weight?'s

SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
edited July 21, 2022 9:49AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Almost looks like it was struck threw something?
Is this a quarter struck on a nickel planchet?
Thanks all
Edge looks like two pieces of metal stacked with the ridges inside.
Graded Proof S minted

Mine ↓



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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you have any nickels with layers like that on the edge?

    This issue has come up frequently on the forum. It would really enhance the learning experience to read threads other than your own. ;)

    I'll bet if you soaked a quarter in an acidic substance it might end up looking a lot like this one. :*

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Slick, Clearly this hobby and the minting process is beyond your level of comprehension. You would do better with a hobby that you don't need to understand the process of how the item is made. Have you thought about collecting Pez dispensers, marbles or Beanie Babies?

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Acid etched

    Collector, occasional seller

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    Yeah and weigh 5.13 grams that's impressive :)
    how do they know when to stop?
    Also isn't copper one of those things I mean on the edge that would've been eaten clean and no ridges?



  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 7:45AM

    Yes if you all got what you say they are using,,, I'd like to see it :) and weigh 5.0 to 5.15 grams :)
    Who knows:) I bet you all are right 👍
    Thanks

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Yes if you all got what you say they are using,,, I'd like to see it :) and weigh 5.0 to 5.15 grams :)
    Thanks

    And here is the problem, rather than accepting what members are telling you or reading other threads you would rather be argumentative about it. Don't be a slug!

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1077569/i-have-another-one-that-i-would-like-to-know-what-causes-it-here-are-some-pics#pagetop

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 7:50AM

    A quarter is three layers. A pure copper core sandwiched between two layers of an alloy made of 75% copper and 25% nickel. The two metals (the pure copper and the alloy layers) obviously react differently to the acid.

    But, why do I bother explaining it.... :/

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Is this a quarter struck on a nickel planchet?"

    When was the last time you saw a nickel with a copper core?

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    Oh I edited it and said I bet you are all right ↑↑↑ why not quote that.

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    I was going off of weight like other people would also.

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 7:54AM

    PS that's why I personally was thinking two dimes lol, yep all questions and I never said anyone was or is wrong.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Clearly you have not bothered to learn anything about the minting process. Only a fool continues to do the same thing while expecting different results. Stop wasting your and everyone else's time.

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 8:22AM

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    I was going off of weight like other people would also.

    I wouldn't expect knowing the weight of a damaged coin to be of much use, but that's just me.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We can explain it to you but we can't understand it for you. ;)

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 8:26AM

    Well and how close this graded Philly matches mine,
    Thanks all

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 8:28AM

    Hmmm sounds like somebody is owed a refund?
    I mean that sold at heritage auctions :)

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Well and how close this graded Philly matches mine,
    Thanks all

    Here's the other side of the coin above. How close does it match yours?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 8:32AM

    I know the other side :) but wait acid tripping man
    I'm just showing "why" I thought and others would think nothing of this :) supposed acid finish.
    Somehow you all act like I've crossed you somehow, to where let's make fun of somebody over their questions.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:

    And weren't you curious about what the reverse looked like? Didn't you think that might be at least slightly relevant?

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 8:37AM

    I knew the other side JBK :)
    Well that and I knew it was proof, dang it I called it a Philly lol
    Also SF is the place Denver mint used to get their planchets from :)

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "PS that's why I personally was thinking two dimes lol"
    "Is this a quarter struck on a nickel planchet?"

    Yep they take two dimes and a nickel to make quarters. :D
    Congrats! You have figured out the minting process.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    I knew the other side JBK :)
    Well that and I knew it was proof, dang it I called it a Philly lol

    So you were just playing games, then?

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 9:46AM

    Ikr 🤣,, I fully agree the 1982 looks altered or something :)
    Well and the other like specimens.
    The 1985 P I just don't get,, it's thicker, it looks like altered color? Also doesn't have the same finish in ❓ sorry all I brought an outsider. :)
    Whatcha all think,, everything here weighs correct I think 1985 P 5.50 grams then the rest are pretty normal.



  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Anyways you'll don't have to go anywhere,, I'll leave.
    Thanks all a bunch of help 👏 with your expert opinions and knowledge,, yeah my questions are totally answered,, with more opinions and questions stemming of your opinions, imagine that lol
    I'm totally impressed with you & your professionalism.
    You showed me :)
    Take it easy

    I'll leave - have sweeter words ever been spoken?

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2022 9:52AM

    Good morning/day all & or Thanks all :)
    Even after everything :)
    Thanks all for everything you all rock

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please stop posting this nonsense

    Pushing misinformation like this and then following up with confusing, ambiguous responses to accurate information can confuse new collectors who come here to learn.

    It's one thing to get your entertainment by trying to find an experienced member to troll, but it's completely lowlife to purposely confuse people who want to learn.

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • rokkyrokky Posts: 308 ✭✭✭✭

    Same old shenanigans. By the way, I thought you were leaving? @SlickCoins

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Whatcha all think,, everything here weighs correct I think 1985 P 5.50 grams then the rest are pretty normal.

    What's the point of weighing damaged coins?

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2022 5:56AM

    Good morning all/day :)
    Great question Mason,,
    To me weight tells me if something has been altered or is messed up, JMO
    So why weigh a 1985 P Quarter, hmmm let's find out :)

    So like I've stated above about the thickness,,, well happens to be I have a 1985 D Quarter.
    Specs
    1985 P Quarter Weight 5.61
    1985 D Quarter Weight 5.55

    Big differences here in metal,,,, example
    The 1985 P Quarters thickness triumphs over the D hmmm 🤔 0.05.

    In my opinion the metal is different,, yep I said it :) based on density.

    One might ask why are they in the middle of 1965's which we all just got an edge shot →1965 The one that looks like just a tiny bit of copper weighs 5.74 grams,,, sometimes scales and weighing coins is a must in my opinion.
    Thanks all





  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is time to send those" rare errors" in for certification rather than posting them here and enduring insults. Let us know how the results turn out.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Great question Mason,,

    But you didn't answer it. If a coin is damaged, what's the point of weighing it?

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sigh.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of people are no doubt glad the OP wastes so much time scrutinizing damaged coins. It lets the rest of us find the good stuff - the (real) errors and varieties, silver, etc. >:)

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2022 8:03AM

    Ok ok, I guess I didn't answer it,
    The best answer I can give you is I don't follow any books, "I did say to find out if anything was altered or messed up".

    I hope that works,,,,

    So sorry about the scale being a cheap one or user error, I didn't tare the plastic off, then I question the scale which leads to further testing.
    Lol cause a brand new nickel weighed 4.94 quadruple checked.

    The 1985 P Quarter isn't damaged I mean yes the au status for sure or both shoot :)
    The height and width of the coin is different,, is it not obvious?

    Thanks all

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "The best answer I can give you is I don't follow any books."

    This is why you will never learn anything about coins.

    Clearly this hobby and the minting process is beyond your level of comprehension. You would do better with a hobby that you don't need to understand the process of how the item is made. Have you thought about collecting Pez dispensers, marbles or Beanie Babies?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:

    The 1985 P Quarter isn't damaged I mean yes the au status for sure or both shoot :)
    The height and width of the coin is different,, is it not obvious?

    (I know it's an exercise in futility :s ).

    If a coin is struck really hard (hammered) the rims can rise up more than on a more lightly struck coin. That might give the appearance of the coin being thicker.

    In recent years the Denver mint seems often times to strike harder than Philadelphia, and some people have even noticed a small difference in the length of rolls of coins from each mint.

    A coin's rim can also be rolled or tapped - either intentionally or otherwise - and that flattens (thickens) the rim.

    The bottom line is that if you want to claim that a coin is an error, you need to offer an explanation that is compatible with the minting process that explains how it occurred. It is not enough to simply say that it looks "different".

    If you can't explain it, then you need to reply on those who are more knowkdeable than you are, but you refuse to listen to them.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How much does a quarter struck on dime stock weigh? Didn't this come up just the other day?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2022 8:06AM

    You all are the pros,, IDK what grade it could be,,, and or of it's damaged like you say :)
    Thanks all


  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never mind, I looked it up. A quarter on dime stock should weigh 4.2g. Normal quarter is 5.7g

    Collector, occasional seller

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SlickCoins said:
    Good morning all/day :)
    Great question Mason,,
    To me weight tells me if something has been altered or is messed up, JMO
    So why weigh a 1985 P Quarter, hmmm let's find out :)

    So like I've stated above about the thickness,,, well happens to be I have a 1985 D Quarter.
    Specs
    1985 P Quarter Weight 5.61
    1985 D Quarter Weight 5.55

    Big differences here in metal,,,, example
    The 1985 P Quarters thickness triumphs over the D hmmm 🤔 0.05.

    In my opinion the metal is different,, yep I said it :) based on density.

    The weight specification for a quarter is 5.67 gms +/- 0.227. That means any quarter weighing Between 5.443 and 5.897 grams is a normal, in specification mint product. The reason for the weight range is to account for minor variations in the rolled strip thickness and punched blanks.

    Your quarters fall well within the standard weight spec range. That means the planchets CANNOT be from a different metal as you speculated.

    So now you have accurate, factual information explaining what you see. That should completely answer your question.

    FYI: the weight spec for nickels are 5.00 gms +/- 0.194, so the coin you quadruple checked is normal as well

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That ought to put all this silliness to rest.

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