This is why I buy the card and not the case.

76collector

CardGeek

Maybe it'll buff out.

Goldenage

Wasn’t that card going for 5-7k ?

StamkosFan

Harsh grade if that's the only problem. There's a board member on here that can remove those, but not gonna get anyone in trouble.

76collector

Yeah just a small indentation drops it 6 grades. Can’t even see it unless you angle the back a certain way. Got an 80% discount buying it vs a 10. I will take that any day. Love the card.

Jeff

CardGeek

it gets dropped 6 grades because PSA has 4 grades for mint and near mint cards. I sent in a card with a similar issue and it came back a 5. There are probably other surface issues with this card. Real though to see surface issues in the case. Even harder to see them in photos, unless they're really detailed.

VitoCo1972

@StamkosFan said:
Harsh grade if that's the only problem. There's a board member on here that can remove those, but not gonna get anyone in trouble.

I was a card guy for so long and frowned upon this a LOT...then I got into comics and pressing is almost universally accepted as no big deal (heck, CGC actually advertises their in house pressing service for your comic submissions). Building up corners is restorative (as is adding pieces and color touches in comics). Pressing out a dent that doesn't "break color" (in comics parlance) should be fine IMHO in the card world.

CardGeek

It's true lots of people look at comic pressing like it doesn't hurt condition. When you buy a new comic it isn't flat. They do flatten when you keep them in a stack though.

The thing that really bothers me about CGC and pressing is, I have to opt to have my book pressed before they grade it. I think they should press the book if they think it's going to help the books condition. Right now I have to decide when I'm paying them for their expertise. I have read posts by guys who seem to have them press every book.

I have heard that guys press cards before they trim them. Press the card to increase its size. Lots of pressure. Then trim the card back to normal size.

If you can't tell anything was done there's no stopping it. If you can tell work has been done I think it's unacceptable.

I have 1 comic that has a purple restored grade label. It looks great. I can't even tell what was done to it. Big hit to resale value.

KendallCat

Beautiful card and indentations drop cards a ton of grades. I won’t alter or adjust cards, but if I could this one would possibly be an 8/8.5.

76collector

@KendallCat said:
Beautiful card and indentations drop cards a ton of grades. I won’t alter or adjust cards, but if I could this one would possibly be an 8/8.5.

This was the point of my post. I agree I’m not going to alter the card. Like your mantle. When I hold it in hand it looks like a 9 or a 10. I’m very pleased with it and got it for an 80% discount. I’d love your Mantle. Gorgeous card, and it looks many grades higher IMO. Some people are focused on the grade a card receives, I’m focused on the way the card looks and will gladly take the steep discount on a card like this.

Jeff

nam812

@76collector said:
Yeah just a small indentation drops it 6 grades. Can’t even see it unless you angle the back a certain way. Got an 80% discount buying it vs a 10. I will take that any day. Love the card.

Jeff

Are you breaking it out to have raw, or are you leaving it in the holder?

VitoCo1972

@CardGeek said:
It's true lots of people look at comic pressing like it doesn't hurt condition. When you buy a new comic it isn't flat. They do flatten when you keep them in a stack though.

The thing that really bothers me about CGC and pressing is, I have to opt to have my book pressed before they grade it. I think they should press the book if they think it's going to help the books condition. Right now I have to decide when I'm paying them for their expertise. I have read posts by guys who seem to have them press every book.

I have heard that guys press cards before they trim them. Press the card to increase its size. Lots of pressure. Then trim the card back to normal size.

If you can't tell anything was done there's no stopping it. If you can tell work has been done I think it's unacceptable.

I have 1 comic that has a purple restored grade label. It looks great. I can't even tell what was done to it. Big hit to resale value.

Someone long ago decided what's acceptable and what isn't and 'that's is the way it is' is so funny. For me color touching just doesn't sit right but hey, that's just me. Pieces added, same thing. If you want to clean the staples, whatever (and people get that through to a Blue label constantly)

Centauri

I had a very similar one of those - 2011 Trout update. I bought it from
Someone else with the 5 grade. Took me a couple years to finally spot the flaw, a surface dimple almost imperceptible. The card looked flawless otherwise.

Very nice card for a fraction of the price.

76collector

@nam812 said:

@76collector said:
Yeah just a small indentation drops it 6 grades. Can’t even see it unless you angle the back a certain way. Got an 80% discount buying it vs a 10. I will take that any day. Love the card.

Jeff

Are you breaking it out to have raw, or are you leaving it in the holder?

No real plans but I'm holding it in my PC in the holder for now. I didn't own the card prior. Generally speaking I won't pay the going rate for a current young player. I make a few exceptions, but I'd rather buy a vintage hall of famer rookie for my Post WWII psa graded rookie set. So typically I start collecting a guy in his 10th year or so, after all the hype dies down, and some other younger hyped guy comes along. I sort of figured it's time to start getting some Trout cards with Ohtani, Vlad Jr. Soto Acuna etc. etc. garnering all the hype.

Jeff