kobe stats without shaq 24 games in the past 2 years
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Kobe - 29.8 points, 44.8 FG%, 6.7 rebounds, 5.5 assists 1.6, 0.61 blocks, 3.2 turnovers
nuff said
that's with mark madsen or samaki walker as a starting center. Take your pick
nuff said
that's with mark madsen or samaki walker as a starting center. Take your pick
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<< <i>Kobe - 29.8 points, 44.8 FG%, 6.7 rebounds, 5.5 assists 1.6, 0.61 blocks, 3.2 turnovers
nuff said
that's with mark madsen or samaki walker as a starting center. Take your pick >>
24 games is not a season... could he do it for 82?
Iverson atleast has mutombo a defensive monster and allstar starter and who does kobe have when shaq is out? Mark madsen?
kobe over a.i all day anyday
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Iverson never plays 82 son
iverson played 60 games this year and kobe could do that easily for 82 hater.
<< <i>so whoever says it's only shaq - eat the truth
Iverson atleast has mutombo a defensive monster and allstar starter and who does kobe have when shaq is out? Mark madsen?
kobe over a.i all day anyday >>
like i said in my other post, mutombo is overrated... he doesn't give iverson as much help as u would think... he's only an all-star starter because the east is weak and has absolutely nobody else... the truth is nobody really knows how Kobe would do without Shaq because it's never happened... until that day, talk is talk and we can pretty much spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week debating because it's all pointless... opinions are opinions... that's all there is to it...
<< <i>could he do it for 82 HAHAHA typical hater sayings
Iverson never plays 82 son
iverson played 60 games this year and kobe could do that easily for 82 hater. >>
i do not like Kobe, but i respect his game... i think he is overrated, but still one of the best players in the league... iverson doesn't play 82 cuz of injuries... kobe didn't play all 82 last year either... players can't help injuries... and there is no way u can say kobe could 'easily' do that for 82... how the hell would u know????... u can only think he could, but u really have no idea cuz it's never happened...
STATS DON'T LIE
Kobe if anything is underrated, because people like you and many other haters say kobe is only good because of shaq. Once again mark madsen or samaki walker are not a defensive presense as mutombo is.
Give kobe mutombo and I will be happy. All these petty iverson fans are going to keep bringing up how iverson took the sixers to the finals, but mutombo played a big part. Teams in the east were far worse last year than this year. I can see it now
year 2008- iverson fans= we'll iverson took the sixers to the 2001 finals
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<< <i>ouch, i think you got em there ebok, lol. They dont have any reasonable arguements, all they do is ask "what if" well fu(k "what if" lets talk about "what is happening" and that is the lakers just won thier 3 consecutive championship, going on thier 4th, and kobe and shaq are making history as the best duo in the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'de like to see someone so "what if" to that.
i think u won the award for the biggest bandwagon Laker fan ever... when did u start rooting for the Lakers? after 2000?
is it hard being stupid? IF KOBE AND SHAQ HAVE NEVER PLAYED WITHOUT EACH OTHER, HOW IN THE HELL CAN U SAY KOBE WOULD BE GOOD WITHOUT HIM... u can't, so therefore, u use "what if"... take your head out of your ass and go talk to your gay friends... oops, i'm sorry did that offend u?
Kobe - 29.8 points, 44.8 FG%, 6.7 rebounds, 5.5 assists 1.6, 0.61 blocks, 3.2 turnovers
How is that overrated without shaq?
<< <i>Kobe - 29.8 points, 44.8 FG%, 6.7 rebounds, 5.5 assists 1.6, 0.61 blocks, 3.2 turnovers
STATS DON'T LIE
Kobe if anything is underrated, because people like you and many other haters say kobe is only good because of shaq. Once again mark madsen or samaki walker are not a defensive presense as mutombo is.
Give kobe mutombo and I will be happy. All these petty iverson fans are going to keep bringing up how iverson took the sixers to the finals, but mutombo played a big part. Teams in the east were far worse last year than this year. I can see it now
year 2008- iverson fans= we'll iverson took the sixers to the 2001 finals
WOW HE BEAT THE RAPTORS? >>
Kobe and Mutombo would not win a championship if Shaq was still in the NBA (and had a worthy guard)...
<< <i>another thing tito from wizard of oz. How can you say kobe is overrated? Overrated are players who are paid big money and don't earn it aka shawn kemp aka ken griffey jr. Kobe doesn;t even get paid more than antoine walker son. So saying kobe is overrated is just plain sippin on the hateraide on you're part.
Kobe - 29.8 points, 44.8 FG%, 6.7 rebounds, 5.5 assists 1.6, 0.61 blocks, 3.2 turnovers
How is that overrated without shaq? >>
isn't it toto from wizard of oz? nice try though...
and being "overrated" has NOTHING to do with money... overrated means not being as good as people think u are... i don't think kobe is as good as people make him out to be... yet, he is still one of the best in the league... but without shaq, he'd be another mcgrady or iverson... and yes, that's my opinion (ONCE AGAIN)...
What had mcgrady done? 1 most improved player award?
This is a stupid arguement
stick to the redskins
<< <i>i think u won the award for the biggest bandwagon Laker fan ever... when did u start rooting for the Lakers? after 2000? >>
actaully i was born and raised in LA, ive liked the dodgers, lakers, and raiders all my life. So im sorry you have no valid point there, haha no shocher there. Wait thito has stuck his foot in his mouth again?!?!?!?! wow that doesnt happen often, thito maybe you should take that foot out of your mouth and stick it up your ass
<< <i>IF KOBE AND SHAQ HAVE NEVER PLAYED WITHOUT EACH OTHER, HOW IN THE HELL CAN U SAY KOBE WOULD BE GOOD WITHOUT HIM... u can't, so therefore, u use "what if" >>
thito try to stay with me, come on now im not using too many bg wortds am i??????? I never said i was using the "what if" fu(king statement i said everyone else was using it!!! And im telling you whats happening, lakers have a dynasty going right now, while the wizards are dragging old man jordan around. Im sorry i dont know how to break it down anymore for you, next time just use a dictionary
<< <i>isn't it toto from wizard of oz? nice try though... >>
you would know that wouldnt you thito???? lol
<< <i>haha kobe has been on the all defensive team since age 20 man. Did iverson even make allnba first team this year? No because everyone knows he just jacks up a bunch of shots.
What had mcgrady done? 1 most improved player award?
This is a stupid arguement
stick to the redskins >>
o believe me, i will stick to my Skins... but right now, it's about Kobe... why do u always try and compare Iverson and Kobe and McGrady?... yes they are the best players in the NBA, but look at the teams man... look at the help they all get... the Lakers have the best role players out of any of 'em... u gotta look at the whole picture...
nough said
<< <i>actaully i was born and raised in LA, ive liked the dodgers, lakers, and raiders all my life. So im sorry you have no valid point there, haha no shocher there. Wait thito has stuck his foot in his mouth again?!?!?!?! wow that doesnt happen often, thito maybe you should take that foot out of your mouth and stick it up your ass
being a fan and knowing about basketball is 2 different things... go play with yourself and we'll let ya know when the season starts again...
<< <i>thito try to stay with me, come on now im not using too many bg wortds am i??????? I never said i was using the "what if" fu(king statement i said everyone else was using it!!! And im telling you whats happening, lakers have a dynasty going right now, while the wizards are dragging old man jordan around. Im sorry i dont know how to break it down anymore for you, next time just use a dictionary
u have got to the biggest dumb fu^k on this board... i never anything about u saying "what if"... i said it, re-read my post u ignorant moron... the Lakers do have a dynasty, when did i disagree with that?... the Wizards are bad now, but give them time... i'll still be fan and winning will be that much sweeter...
<< <i>you would know that wouldnt you thito???? lol
fu^kin comedian...
<< <i>being a fan and knowing about basketball is 2 different things... go play with yourself and we'll let ya know when the season starts again... >>
well i watch every laker home game with fox sports west and alot of the away games with other channels. I see mostly all the dodger games with fox sports west 2 and I watch every damn Raider game the televise cause that sh!t is rare. I may not know alot about the Lakers in the 80's but i have been watching them since they had Anthony Peeler, Vlade Divac, Eddie Jones, Elden Campbell, Cedric Ceballos, Robert Horry, and Nick Van Exel were just some of my hereos when i was younger. I used to love Mike Piazza when he was playing for the Dodgers but now i hate the b@startd! And the Raiders, until these recent years, have been p!ssing me off with thier sh!tty play but i have always been a true Raider fan. So i aint no fu(king bandwagoner.
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<< <i>being a fan and knowing about basketball is 2 different things... go play with yourself and we'll let ya know when the season starts again... >>
well i watch every laker home game with fox sports west and alot of the away games with other channels. I see mostly all the dodger games with fox sports west 2 and I watch every damn Raider game the televise cause that sh!t is rare. I may not know alot about the Lakers in the 80's but i have been watching them since they had Anthony Peeler, Vlade Divac, Eddie Jones, Elden Campbell, Cedric Ceballos, Robert Horry, and Nick Van Exel were just some of my hereos when i was younger. I used to love Mike Piazza when he was playing for the Dodgers but now i hate the b@startd! And the Raiders, until these recent years, have been p!ssing me off with thier sh!tty play but i have always been a true Raider fan. So i aint no fu(king bandwagoner. >>
like i said before, watching sports and KNOWING about sports is 2 completely different things... maybe if i keep repeating myself, you'll understand in a couple of years...
yeh his stats are good... however, 3.2 TOs? ouch that's pretty bad... almost as bad as Iverson..
also.. sure his stats might be better... but is the team winning as much??
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