I'm confused... you wouldn't know a counterfeit if it was staring you in the face...
."It's a dangerous business... going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to" -JRR Tolkien_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Outstanding BST transactions as a seller, buyer and trader with: ----- mustanggt, Kliao, claudewill87, MWallace, paesan, mpbuck82, moursund, basetsb, lordmarcovan, JWP, Coin hunter 4, COINS MAKE CENTS, PerryHall, Aspie_Rocco, Braddick, DBSTrader2, SanctionII, Histman, The_Dinosaur_Man, jesbroken, CentSearcher ------ANA Member #3214817
Cannot speak to the colonial but the rest of them are right as rain.
If I had that first coin, I would probably just throw it on eBay with a shrug of a description and let people more knowledgeable than me decide what it's worth. Even if it is a contemporary counterfeit, it probably has value to a collector of such.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Lol William I only lol'd cause me and you both ruled against another coin which everyone passed.
Also see the 8,,, flattened JMO
PS it gets even better,,,, he actually is giving them a grade also
@SlickCoins said:
Lol William I only lol'd cause me and you both ruled against another coin which everyone passed.
Also see the 8,,, flattened JMO
PS it gets even better,,,, he actually is giving them a grade also
@SlickCoins said:
Lol William I only lol'd cause me and you both ruled against another coin which everyone passed.
Also see the 8,,, flattened JMO
PS it gets even better,,,, he actually is giving them a grade also
Contact mark. No big deal.
Why are we calling out some random guy here?
He needs fresh trolling meat and is fishing for someone to get him started with the authentic vs counterfeit nonsense.
So you are saying that someone who sells copies can only sell copies, or if they sell genuine coins they can only sell genuine coins?
That is literally saying "this coin is real because those coins are real", which is not a valid argument.
No not at all what I'm saying,,, I said I wanted to show you all what I seen when I bought my supposed fake coin surrounded by real coins all different years.
That's all
I'm not trying to do anything but paint a picture of how one might think it is strange for a supposed reproduction to be amongst real old coins.
I'm not a troll.
Thanks all,,, it was a simple creditability check.
@SlickCoins said:
Lol William I only lol'd cause me and you both ruled against another coin which everyone passed.
Also see the 8,,, flattened JMO
PS it gets even better,,,, he actually is giving them a grade also
Contact mark. No big deal.
Why are we calling out some random guy here?
He needs fresh trolling meat and is fishing for someone to get him started with the authentic vs counterfeit nonsense.
@SlickCoins said:
I'm not calling him out,,, just this is the vendor I got my display coin from
Great vendor, I mean communication and transaction
Thanks all
You are calling him out. You stated his name. And this thread is inappropriate. It is either you trolling the seller or advertising the seller. Either way, it doesn't really belong on the forum.
@SlickCoins said:
I'm not trying to do anything but paint a picture of how one might think it is strange for a supposed reproduction to be amongst real old coins.
I'm not a troll.
Thanks all,,, it was a simple creditability check.
That's really not what you said in the OP. And all we really have is you erroneously "supposing" a coin to be a reproduction.
@SlickCoins said:
I'm not calling him out,,, just this is the vendor I got my display coin from
Great vendor, I mean communication and transaction
Thanks all
Saved from an edit.
This thread is just another "back door" attempt to reopen a discussion on the OP's counterfeit large cent - a discussion which the moderators have already closed twice.
Here is another one that is still active and pretty reasonable all things considered. I have an example of this particular die or I would have already purchased it: https://ebay.com/itm/354126158256
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
@braddick said:
That one is cool.
It closes soon too.
Someone sniped it at the opening bid, was it you?
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
PS I'm my opinion it was free advertising not calling anyone out, I was thinking about getting the coins,,,I still have questions on my other old cents and we know how well things go.
To answer about that mark in my opinion it's obviously not PMD and the mint in fact did do it & it's not supposed to be there therefore in my book hmmm think about it.
So I should've said to do the flattening on said coin,,,, wait what what what
Yes to flatten the supposed 8,,, well you're gonna have to make a machine doubling die in my opinion cause you'll never match it perfect,, plot thickens
This is where the fire within ignites for I've been in the Counterfeit coins forums part and see this a lot
Hmmm machine doubling cause I doubt you all will call it a double die would most likely be IMPOSSIBLE back then.
Look up "Longacre doubling" and lay off the sauce.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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Thanks all
I'm confused... you wouldn't know a counterfeit if it was staring you in the face...
."It's a dangerous business... going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to" -JRR Tolkien_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Outstanding BST transactions as a seller, buyer and trader with: ----- mustanggt, Kliao, claudewill87, MWallace, paesan, mpbuck82, moursund, basetsb, lordmarcovan, JWP, Coin hunter 4, COINS MAKE CENTS, PerryHall, Aspie_Rocco, Braddick, DBSTrader2, SanctionII, Histman, The_Dinosaur_Man, jesbroken, CentSearcher ------ANA Member #3214817
Cannot speak to the colonial but the rest of them are right as rain.
If I had that first coin, I would probably just throw it on eBay with a shrug of a description and let people more knowledgeable than me decide what it's worth. Even if it is a contemporary counterfeit, it probably has value to a collector of such.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Lol William
I only lol'd cause me and you both ruled against another coin which everyone passed.

Also see the 8,,, flattened JMO
PS it gets even better,,,, he actually is giving them a grade also
Contact mark. No big deal.
Why are we calling out some random guy here?
I wish the 3 cent silver was a contemporary counterfeit. They're expensive as such!
peacockcoins
How expensive? I've got one sonewhere.
He needs fresh trolling meat and is fishing for someone to get him started with the authentic vs counterfeit nonsense.
I'm not calling him out,,, my bad
Thanks all
Here is one being offered (they don't come up very often):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225033573870?hash=item34650bd5ee:g:tFQAAOSwAgBiA0jt
Here is one that sold:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304476124903?hash=item46e430f6e7:g:jpIAAOSwotFidGiP
peacockcoins
So you are saying that someone who sells copies can only sell copies, or if they sell genuine coins they can only sell genuine coins?
That is literally saying "this coin is real because those coins are real", which is not a valid argument.
Collector, occasional seller
No not at all what I'm saying,,, I said I wanted to show you all what I seen when I bought my supposed fake coin surrounded by real coins all different years.
That's all
The 1st coin is not a colonial. It's an English Farthing or Half Penny that most likely that was found with a metal detector.
Me see no counterfeits, just a few that are abused!
I'm not trying to do anything but paint a picture of how one might think it is strange for a supposed reproduction to be amongst real old coins.
I'm not a troll.
Thanks all,,, it was a simple creditability check.
I believe you were successful.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
He can't play if we don't.
You are calling him out. You stated his name. And this thread is inappropriate. It is either you trolling the seller or advertising the seller. Either way, it doesn't really belong on the forum.
That's really not what you said in the OP. And all we really have is you erroneously "supposing" a coin to be a reproduction.
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Saved from an edit.
This thread is just another "back door" attempt to reopen a discussion on the OP's counterfeit large cent - a discussion which the moderators have already closed twice.
My bad
I'm not trying to bring up my coin.
Here is another one that is still active and pretty reasonable all things considered. I have an example of this particular die or I would have already purchased it:
https://ebay.com/itm/354126158256
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
That one is cool.
It closes soon too.
peacockcoins
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thanks. completely missed whom started the thread or i would have just moved along.
Fixed,,,, I'm to blame again,,,, all good
Laters
Thanks all
Sorry I even clicked on this one...
Someone sniped it at the opening bid, was it you?
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
PS I'm my opinion it was free advertising not calling anyone out, I was thinking about getting the coins,,,I still have questions on my other old cents and we know how well things go.
To answer about that mark in my opinion it's obviously not PMD and the mint in fact did do it & it's not supposed to be there therefore in my book hmmm think about it.
Anyways thanks all for everything
So I should've said to do the flattening on said coin,,,, wait what what what
Yes to flatten the supposed 8,,, well you're gonna have to make a machine doubling die in my opinion cause you'll never match it perfect,, plot thickens
This is where the fire within ignites for I've been in the Counterfeit coins forums part and see this a lot
Hmmm machine doubling cause I doubt you all will call it a double die would most likely be IMPOSSIBLE back then.
Let's see shall we




Look up "Longacre doubling" and lay off the sauce.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
No. I was thinking about it and moved on with my day. That was a decent deal for a scarcer bogus 3c
peacockcoins