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  • JoeLewisJoeLewis Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭

    I just looked through your previous threads, and I’ve got to say, your MO is extremely similar to the guy with the fake 1793 cent.

    Are you being serious with all this?

  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    California dreaming...

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin is trashed. There is nothing more to say about it.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2022 5:57AM

    @MFeld said:
    Seeing as how the coin is an S-mint, it’s not a Proof, California or otherwise. But it’s certainly been messed with.

    I think the original poster was implying that the coin is a "California Cameo". That is what they were called a few decades ago when they were showing up in quantity at coin shows, etc. I remember one coin dealer having a whole case full of them at a show in the early 1990s . All had artificially polished fields and most also had artificially frosted devices.

    A lot of them only had the main device frosted and the rest of the coin was polished because that was easier and quicker to do. Of course, a genuine proof or proof-like cameo coin has all the devices (including the letters) frosted.

    Note on the coin pictured that the insides of the letters "R", "B", and "S" of PLURIBUS (among others) did not get polished because it is hard to polish those small spaces on the coin itself.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    The coin is trashed. There is nothing more to say about it.

    I wonder if the artificial frost can be removed with a soak in acetone. I understand that it's some type of lacquer mixed with powdered white metal such as aluminum that is painted onto the raised features using a fine tipped brush. Of course, the coin is still ruined from the polishing.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @MFeld said:
    Seeing as how the coin is an S-mint, it’s not a Proof, California or otherwise. But it’s certainly been messed with.

    I think the original poster was implying that the coin is a "California Cameo". That is what they were called a few decades ago when they were showing up in quantity at coin shows, etc. I remember one coin dealer having a whole case full of them at a show in the early 1990s . All had artificially polished fields and most also had artificially frosted devices.

    A lot of them only had the main device frosted and the rest of the coin was polished because that was easier and quicker to do. Of course, a genuine proof or proof-like cameo coin has all the devices (including the letters) frosted.

    Note on the coin pictured that the insides of the letters "R", "B", and "S" of PLURIBUS (among others) did not get polished because it is hard to polish those small spaces.

    I concur and over the years, I've seen a lot more than I would have liked. ;)

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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