@PerryHall said:
I doubt if anyone will ever have a complete set of US coins. Eliasberg came close but he lacked the 1870-S half dime which wasn't discovered until after his death. I understand that one of his 3 cent coins turned out to be a pattern and not a regular issue coin. Does anyone here know the story about this coin?
@asheland said:
I’d love a set of gold dollars, not impossible, but a few a really tough for my limited means.
That’s why type collecting is so appealing to me. Although I am doing the type set, certain coins like Indian Head Cents and Gold Dollars I have multiples of because I like the series so much.
I guess if finances improve and rarities become available, IHC and Gold Dollars are two sets I would attempt.
If I can put together a set of IHC I'm sure you can
Just have fun doing it
I really enjoyed looking at your Indian Cent collection. Congratulations and well done!
@asheland said:
I’d love a set of gold dollars, not impossible, but a few a really tough for my limited means.
That’s why type collecting is so appealing to me. Although I am doing the type set, certain coins like Indian Head Cents and Gold Dollars I have multiples of because I like the series so much.
I guess if finances improve and rarities become available, IHC and Gold Dollars are two sets I would attempt.
If I can put together a set of IHC I'm sure you can
Just have fun doing it
It’s definitely easier than the gold dollars set. Did you complete the set?
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Wow! Nice set! That's part of my problem is I want nothing lower than 63BN...
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I would tell you that an MS65RB would be a nice goal for this set, CAC would really be an effort.
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Well I haven’t yet decided if I’m going through with the set or not, but if I do, I already have the plan set:
PCGS and NGC only both mixed are fine. prefer the older holders, especially if red or red-brown
Everything between 63 and 66, no exceptions lower than 63, even for the 1877.
all color designations welcome, but will mostly do brown or RB on the earlier ones, and likely full red on the 1890’s and later.
CAC and Eagle Eye welcome, but not mandatory. The main thing is that I like the originality and eye appeal.
I think that sums it up, I’d do better but my budget allows for these rules, if the budget improves, all in 65 would be nice.
I only have these two so far, and the 63 brown, to me at least, is very attractive and acceptable. But, I don’t want anything lower...
And this one:
As a type collector, just having these two and maybe a few others would suffice, so if I don’t follow through with the set, I’m still very happy to own these two examples.
@asheland said:
I’d love a set of gold dollars, not impossible, but a few a really tough for my limited means.
That’s why type collecting is so appealing to me. Although I am doing the type set, certain coins like Indian Head Cents and Gold Dollars I have multiples of because I like the series so much.
I guess if finances improve and rarities become available, IHC and Gold Dollars are two sets I would attempt.
If I can put together a set of IHC I'm sure you can
Just have fun doing it
I really enjoyed looking at your Indian Cent collection. Congratulations and well done!
Die varieties make any set a challenge.
The 20c date/mm set is easy if you have enough money, but I've been working on a dv set for years. Only 31 coins, but since the major 3rd party graders don't recognize die varieties, and when the auction house that do regularly mis-identify them, the only way to find them is in the wild.
I've been checking all the online auctions and all the shops and shows that I can get to for years. Excluding the unobtainable at my budget (1876-CC and 1875-S proof), still only 75% complete.
How about a date and redbook set of proof Capped Bust Quarters? The 1818 is unique and grades PCGS PR66+ CAM Gold CAC, tied as the earliest known silver proof. Then the unique 1820 small O proof graded PR64 CAC with 3 large O's known. The 1821 with two graded by PCGS. Then the 1822 error reverse with two proofs known, both graded PR65 CAC. Then the 1823/2 unique for the date and one of two key dates to the series, currently graded PR64 CAC. Then the 1824/2 unique for bthe date and graded PR63 CAC (crossed last year from NGC PR63). Then other rarities such as the original strike 1827/3 B-1 (curl 2) and restrike 1827/3 B-2 (square 2). That's three unique coins by date and one unique redbook variety. Certainly more unique coins than early circulated gold half eagles. And unlike the 1822 half eagle which is not stellar in appearance, although still crazy cool by reputation. All four of the unique coins in the set are PR63 to 66+ and CAC and have terrific eye appeal. You should view these coins on coin facts if you have a chance. Of the small size Bust Quarter proofs several have populations of only 2 to 3 coins. How is that for a tough, short series to assemble? Green, Pittman, Norweb, Eliasberg, Simpson and Pogue never reached half completion, not surprisingly given the profound rarity and the unique coins being held separately for decades. That's my favorite series because of exceptional eye appeal, the era of pre-1839 early federal coinage and crazy rarity.
I would think s complete set of 1792 patterns would be pretty tough as well. With the white metal Birch Cent being unique and the two Wright quarters being 2 known each (Judd-12 and Judd-13).
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I really enjoyed looking at your Indian Cent collection. Congratulations and well done!
Well I haven’t yet decided if I’m going through with the set or not, but if I do, I already have the plan set:
PCGS and NGC only both mixed are fine. prefer the older holders, especially if red or red-brown
Everything between 63 and 66, no exceptions lower than 63, even for the 1877.
all color designations welcome, but will mostly do brown or RB on the earlier ones, and likely full red on the 1890’s and later.
CAC and Eagle Eye welcome, but not mandatory. The main thing is that I like the originality and eye appeal.
I think that sums it up, I’d do better but my budget allows for these rules, if the budget improves, all in 65 would be nice.
I only have these two so far, and the 63 brown, to me at least, is very attractive and acceptable. But, I don’t want anything lower...
And this one:
As a type collector, just having these two and maybe a few others would suffice, so if I don’t follow through with the set, I’m still very happy to own these two examples.
I have a proof, too, but one is enough for that.
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I looked too, very impressive!
This is a great thread indeed.
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Die varieties make any set a challenge.
The 20c date/mm set is easy if you have enough money, but I've been working on a dv set for years. Only 31 coins, but since the major 3rd party graders don't recognize die varieties, and when the auction house that do regularly mis-identify them, the only way to find them is in the wild.
I've been checking all the online auctions and all the shops and shows that I can get to for years. Excluding the unobtainable at my budget (1876-CC and 1875-S proof), still only 75% complete.
Not an easy question to answer. As others have said some series have unique coins so by definition these are the hardest to complete.
But excluding unique coins, I am going to say proof bust half dimes, dimes, or quarters.
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How about a date and redbook set of proof Capped Bust Quarters? The 1818 is unique and grades PCGS PR66+ CAM Gold CAC, tied as the earliest known silver proof. Then the unique 1820 small O proof graded PR64 CAC with 3 large O's known. The 1821 with two graded by PCGS. Then the 1822 error reverse with two proofs known, both graded PR65 CAC. Then the 1823/2 unique for the date and one of two key dates to the series, currently graded PR64 CAC. Then the 1824/2 unique for bthe date and graded PR63 CAC (crossed last year from NGC PR63). Then other rarities such as the original strike 1827/3 B-1 (curl 2) and restrike 1827/3 B-2 (square 2). That's three unique coins by date and one unique redbook variety. Certainly more unique coins than early circulated gold half eagles. And unlike the 1822 half eagle which is not stellar in appearance, although still crazy cool by reputation. All four of the unique coins in the set are PR63 to 66+ and CAC and have terrific eye appeal. You should view these coins on coin facts if you have a chance. Of the small size Bust Quarter proofs several have populations of only 2 to 3 coins. How is that for a tough, short series to assemble? Green, Pittman, Norweb, Eliasberg, Simpson and Pogue never reached half completion, not surprisingly given the profound rarity and the unique coins being held separately for decades. That's my favorite series because of exceptional eye appeal, the era of pre-1839 early federal coinage and crazy rarity.
I would think s complete set of 1792 patterns would be pretty tough as well. With the white metal Birch Cent being unique and the two Wright quarters being 2 known each (Judd-12 and Judd-13).
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Did Simpson have a full set?
No Simpson had just about half of the 1792 patterns as I was informed. But i think a total around 1400-1500 different patterns overall.
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