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49423360 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1974 Topps 100 Willie Stargell
49423361 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1974 Topps 340 Thurman Munson
49423362 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1974 Topps 331 All-Star Catchers C.Fisk/J.Bench
49423363 EXCELLENT 5 1974 Topps 201 Batting Leaders R.Carew/P.Rose
49423364 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1974 Topps 470 A.L. Playoffs
49423288 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1980 Topps 482 Rickey Henderson came back creased
49423289 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 176 Lee Smith I have had this Henderson 4 years
49423290 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Topps 740 Tom Seaver I bought it on eBay.
49423291 GEM MINT 10 1985 Leaf 208 Rickey Henderson I looked at this card real close.
49423292 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Leaf 216 Nolan Ryan I don't think I sent it in creased.
49423293 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Leaf 234 Dwight Gooden
49423294 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Leaf 159 Darryl Strawberry
49423295 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 Leaf 99 Roger Clemens
49423296 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 41 Dwight Gooden
49423297 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1985 O-Pee-Chee 324 Don Mattingly
49423298 EXCELLENT 5 1985 O-Pee-Chee 1 Tom Seaver This Seaver looks like it has surface
49423299 EXCELLENT 5 1985 O-Pee-Chee 360 Steve Carlton Like it's rippled.
49423300 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 296 Ryne Sandberg
49423301 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 273 Orel Hershiser
49423302 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 273 Orel Hershiser
49423303 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 63 Nolan Ryan
49423304 NEAR MINT 7 1985 O-Pee-Chee 30 Cal Ripken Jr.
49423367 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps Traded 20T Jose Canseco
49423305 MINT 9 1986 Donruss 39 Jose Canseco
49423306 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 O-Pee-Chee 390 Tom Seaver Like it's rippled. Pack Fresh
49423307 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1986 O-Pee-Chee 98 Roger Clemens All of these 86 OPC packs had
49423308 VERY GOOD 3 1986 O-Pee-Chee 19 Ryne Sandberg gum that was gooey. Soaking in to
49423309 MINT 9 1986 O-Pee-Chee 386 Cecil Fielder the cards. I sold this Fielder way
49423310 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 52 Don Mattingly too low.
49423311 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 36 Greg Maddux
49423312 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 46 Mark McGwire
49423313 GEM MINT 10 1987 Donruss 35 Bo Jackson
49423314 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Donruss 97 Jose Canseco
49423315 VERY GOOD 3 1989 O-Pee-Chee 186 Randy Johnson came back creased
49423316 MINT 9 1989 Bowman 216 Edgar Martinez This I cracked out of a pack.
49423317 MINT 9 1989 Bowman 220 Ken Griffey Jr. Maybe I just didn't notice.
49423318 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Bowman 220 Ken Griffey Jr.
49423341 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Bowman 378 Bo Jackson
49423342 MINT 9 1990 Bowman 439 Bernie Williams
49423343 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Bowman 468 Randy Johnson
49423344 MINT 9 1990 Bowman 320 Frank Thomas
49423345 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Bowman 117 Larry Walker
49423346 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Bowman 117 Larry Walker
49423347 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Bowman 181 Barry Bonds
49423348 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Bowman 481 Ken Griffey Jr.
49423366 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps 336 Ken Griffey Jr.
49423319 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 O-Pee-Chee 339 Larry Walker
49423336 GEM MINT 10 1992 O-Pee-Chee 156 Manny Ramirez This Ramirez looked really
49423337 MINT 9 1992 O-Pee-Chee 50 Ken Griffey Jr. expensive as a 10 on eBay when I
49423338 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 O-Pee-Chee 380 Barry Bonds sent it in. When I got it back it
49423339 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 O-Pee-Chee 1 Nolan Ryan appeared to have lost its value on eBay.
49423340 NEAR MINT 7 1992 O-Pee-Chee 78 Ivan Rodriguez
49423365 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 ST 1983 O-Pee-Chee 215 Wayne Gretzky Goal Leaders
49423368 NEAR MINT 7 1988 Topps 66 Brett Hull
49423321 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Topps 1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
49423322 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1988 Fleer Sticker 6 Magic Johnson
49423323 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1975 Topps 286 Utah Stars Team Leaders
49423324 NEAR MINT 7 1980 Topps M.Cooper, M.Malone G.Johnson
49423325 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 Topps M.Cooper, M.Malone G.Johnson
49423326 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 Topps M.Cooper, M.Malone G.Johnson
49423327 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 S.I. for Kids 67 Mike McGill
49423328 MINT 9 1991 S.I. for Kids 236 Christian Hosoi
49423329 MINT 9 1991 S.I. for Kids 236 Christian Hosoi
49423330 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 S.I. for Kids 236 Christian Hosoi
49423331 MINT 9 1991 S.I. for Kids 236 Christian Hosoi
49423333 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 S.I. for Kids 152 Tony Hawk
49423335 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 S.I. for Kids 152 Tony Hawk
49423284 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Vision Generation Extreme 55 Chris Senn
49423279 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 Vision Generation Extreme 95 Tony Hawk
49423265 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Team Vans 6 Ray Barbee
49423266 GEM MINT 10 1997 Team Vans 6 Ray Barbee
49423267 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Team Vans 6 Ray Barbee
49423268 EXCELLENT 5 1997 Team Vans 12 Lance Mountain
49423269 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Team Vans 12 Lance Mountain
49423270 MINT 9 1997 Team Vans 12 Lance Mountain
49423271 GEM MINT 10 1997 Team Vans 12 Lance Mountain
49423272 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1997 Team Vans 12 Lance Mountain
49423273 EXCELLENT 5 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423274 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423275 GEM MINT 10 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423276 MINT 9 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423277 MINT 9 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423278 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1997 Team Vans 1 Steve Caballero
49423286 MINT 9 2000 Star Stc Surf, Skate, Wake, Body, Skim 10 Bob Burnquist
49423355 MINT 9 2000 Star Stc Surf, Skate, Wake, Body, Skim 10 Bob Burnquist
49423357 MINT 9 2000 Star Stc Surf, Skate, Wake, Body, Skim 10 Bob Burnquist
49423356 MINT 9 2000 Star Stc Surf, Skate, Wake, Body, Skim 1 Jason Acuna
49423280 MINT 9 2000 Fleer Adrenaline-Autographs A Arto Saari
49423358 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 Fleer Adrenaline-Autographs A Arto Saari
49423349 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423350 EXCELLENT 5 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423351 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423352 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423353 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423354 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
49423285 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Donruss All-Pro Skateboard 22 I Thirst for Skateboarding
I also got this stuff back.
In 1992 I really liked these. Looking at it now, the set kinda sucks. 1992 and they're still selling Frank Thomas as a Rookie. The Ivan Rodriguez Rookie Sensation is a little more legit. He had a 1991 Topps Update card, I guess. This one is missing the foil layer. I don't know if that's cool or not.
Min size. I've put it next to a few random 1974 topps cards. It is a little small.
So, I sent in 5 of these Hawks. They graded 2, 6s. And, 3 got min size. They are a little small. Hawk is at the bottom of the page. I was a little disappointed at my average. I could do better now.
I Thirst for Skateboarding is a Stacy Peralta rookie card. For some reason they grade the sticker side as the front. The athlete is on the back. I think that's a lot of 6s. This set is real tough in high grade. I sent 2 in to Becket, through a shop, before I made this PSA sub. One got a 6.5 and the other got an 8.
Comments
Not sure I understand all your notes such as "I just didn't notice."
But very cool. Quite a bit of cards and some neat obscure stuff!
Notes sometimes follow from the previous line.
I've heard rumors of PSA damaging corners, but nothing regarding creasing and I don't understand how that would be possible (accidentally; it could be possible on purpose).
You got hammered . welcome to 20022 grading.
The Tony Hawk situation is beyond a frustrating point if it is within accepted tolerance variance of all the graded SIFK Hawk ones. If a card is known to have a smaller size than others in the set due to manufacturing process, then that card should be graded without bias against its size dimensions. The most important illustration of this point is the notorious 1968 O-Pee-Chee baseball "shorties" that most often get sent back as minsize even though none of the bunch were manufactured with the same size cut as the majority of the set. PSA absolutely gets it wrong when it comes to the '68 OPC shorties, and it looks like the same might be happening with Hawk though I'd need to look further into it to be sure.
I just got my grades for a small order and 6 of the SIFK cards from the same set as the Tony Hawk cards above came back as MinSize...I don't get it
The post looked different in the editor.
Here's the Randy Johnson. It's really hard to see the crease in the holder. I'm going to try to get a pic of it with a camera. I doubt I'll be able to though.
I guess I can.
Here's the Henderson
The crease is real tough to see in the holder. Real tough to get a picture of too.
I'm surprised the Henderson graded higher than the Johnson.
I sent this one in just to see what it would get.
It has a fingernail mark, or something, at the top. Looks like that makes it a 4. Obviously it has other issues too.
I dig the skate cards! Working on building up a skate/bmx set myself. I have an unopened box of Generation Xtreme cards along with with a box of Fleer Adrenaline. Waiting for a good night to rip those.
There's a pretty cool Donruss BMX set from 1984. I don't know anything about BMX. I liked the bikes when I was a kid though. I thought about doing BMX when once I ran out of interesting skateboarding stuff to go after. Not really my thing though. A good amount of BMX cards came out of Australia too. Weet-Bix I think. Or similar. I'd really like a guide to Australian cards.
I've had this card since I was a kid. Of course back then I thought errors were bad on cards. Of course, now that I am older I know that's not true, but the opposite. This Bo Jackson 90 Donruss BC-1 has the print defect of a huge white dot on his face. It looks like one of the dots off his collar tried to escape. lol
I scanned the card at 1200 dpi so you can zoom in to see that the dot was actually printed on the card and not something that got on the card after I owned it. Being scanned at such a high dpi makes the colors look lighter than they are. The actual card looks like any other card like this. Except for the dot. of course, I'm sure they're quite a few of these cards out there. But I bet this is the only one like this. There is wear on the edges from me handling it as a kid. Like most kids back then I was a big Bo Jackson fan so I would pull it out with all my other Bo Jackson cards from time to time. The edges are not as noticeable in person.
I don't know if I want to sell. But I did want other collectors to see and share their input.
See though, this is a print defect. An error would be, like, if they spelled his name wrong.
If you make stuff like that something special, people just start making cards with errors and print defects and hyping them.
Back in the 90s, when I first heard of the Frank Thomas NNOF. I believe the story was that the guy who owned Beckett owned all of the known copies. He also owned the price guide. Suddenly that card was real expensive. I could be misremembering. It's not like I keep a journal on this stuff. I shouldn't be that far off though.
Thank you very much. If that dude really did that with the Frank Thomas card, that's messed up. Kind of clever, but ethically not the best move.
Rough on those Tony Hawk's. The min size one on the left looks nicely centered too.
Here are the backs of the Henderson and Johnson.
looks like it also has wax on the surface. with one or the other it is probably a 5 or 5.5 but with both a 4.
those creases , at least the one on the Rickey are pretty common and rather disappointing when the rest of the card is nice(although in this case the bottom left corner was going to hurt)
this sub seems all over the place, what was your expectations when you sent it in? I assume that was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away ...........
My expectation was that I would get this stuff back in a reasonable amount of time. I'm not even upset about the grades. I just expect them to be accurate. If the turnaround happened in a reasonable amount of time I'd just submit some more and not even worry about this stuff. I paid 10 dollars a card, I think, I scraped this together just to hit 100 cards. I have a box of stuff that I had expected to be able to submit. But, not at 30 bucks a card and 1.5 year turnaround no guarantees.
The Manny Ramirez though. When I submitted it, a thousand dollar plus card on eBay, in a 10. Much less in any condition other than a 10. I took it out of the pack and put it in with the rest of my stuff. When I got this stuff back the Ramirez was a around 100 dollar card in a 10 on eBay.
If I were submitting anything of real value I would be very cautious. Especially if there are offers being thrown around. High res scans and detailed photos of everything being sent in.
In some areas on eBay I can set the market. I'm just 1 dude. I don't even have a ton of cash or anything. But, I can control the markets. If I were 4, 5 or 10 dudes with some cash...
I don't believe PSA should be accepting anything that isn't at least 5 years old. When the community thinks multi million dollar cards are coming out of 2022 packs, how can I blame them?
cool skate cards ... post some pics of those!
Tony Hawk is the 41st most popular skater on my site. Accurate? Shrug.