Sometimes I can't help myself! What would your final reply be to this ebayer?
amwldcoin
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I've been lowballed and then I've been lowballed! This is a better date,better grade Seated Coin In a details holder that might eventually end up straight graded. I paid a little strong for it after watching problem coin after problem coin bring non-problem prices(PCGS Price Guide) in auction. I have this priced slightly above greysheet. His offer is around 4% of my listed price!
Ebayer:
Can you please lower your price
My Reply:
What did you have in mind?
Ebayer:
Well let me ask you this, is $30 way better than nothing?
My Reply:
If you mean $30 off I could do that.
Best Regards
Ebayer:
Not $30 off $30 total that's a lot better than nothing
My Reply:
OMG! I think you are the ultimate bottom feeder! You couldn’t buy a barely identifiable parking lot or metal detector find for that!
Ebayer:
I'm really not trying to be a low baller, but I really hope you could understand that my aunt is really depending on me to collect old silver coins/bills for her collection. She's 98 years old, so I want the opportunity for her to have good memories of these items. I want to make her happy so I can be happy. Can you please accept my offer of $30?
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Your Reply????? I'm not planning on responding.
Now that I think about it, over the last few years I have been there and done that several times with this ebayer. I have never blocked anyone for this type of nonsense, But I am strongly tempted now!
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take the $30
That's about a par reply for you!!!! You should keep your comments on the darkside since this isn't one of those Russian coins I won't sell at the currently depressed market to you! They are selling slowly though to other Yanks. Things might be different across the pond, but I'm not across the pond!
Well, Ignoring the seller would be a good start. He obviously will never be a future customer. Your price is your price. He can find another coin for $30.00.
I'd ask for the aunt's name and birth year. Who knows, maybe he'll screw up and tell you she was born in 1972...
Honestly, I seriously doubt this aunt exists.
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As ridiculous a conversation as I have ever read. The person making the offer is either very young and stupid or is a bored person who enjoys firing up people for no reason. I would definitely block this individual. PM me his ID and I will block him for sure.
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How can you have the coin priced “slightly above greysheet” when it’s in a details holder? There is no grey sheet for details coins, is there?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
There you go nitpicking again! Everyone but you would understand the pricing.
If you think that’s nitpicking, perhaps you’re not being objective or putting yourself in the other person’s shoes. If you priced a details grade coin at a straight grade level, its easy to understand why potential buyers think you’re asking way too much.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Feld says take the $30
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Well! The afore mentioned coins were sold buy your employer! PCGS PG is 50-75% higher than Greysheet! The interpretation of my pricing info is F details = GS 12, VF details = GS 20, XF details = GS 40, etc.
Ignore and smile, smile, smile.
Quote whatever figures you want. It’s a fact that far more often than not, details grade coins sell for much less than straight grade ones.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I don't disagree 1 bit! Will you list some problem free better date Seated Coins on ebay slightly above greysheet so I can buy them???
That’s not what you were offering for sale.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Unless you like entertainment, I'd block the ebayer.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
I agree with ignoring the fool.
I wouldn't reply, I would just block and move on.
Ignore, block, & move on with life.
That was an appropriate response to your insinuations!
Ebayer:
Not $30 off $30 total that's a lot better than nothing
At this point, my response would have been "The best I can do is $X." I would not reply further aside from saying "Thanks for your interest."
If he is that fond of his aunt, he should be happy to pay your price.
So you are asking $750 and he is offering $30 for a better date, better grade Seated Coin? If you have had the coin for a while, tell him you would really like to help him out. As Mark said, details are all over the map in terms of pricing. Offer it at your cost and plus whatever you need for shipping and see if he even takes it. : ) If he truly is interested in better date, better grade Seated Coins you might even turn him into a long term customer after all.
That whole message exchange really nut shells what I love most about coins, coin collectors, dealers etc...
What a masterful negotiator this ebayer is! The seller has shrewdly returned each volley!
The experts have all weighed in on the matter...
It's like dinner theater with a fine bottle of wine 👏
Take the $30.
"Sorry, but I have another buyer whose aunt is 99 and is offering $90."
“Insinuations”? My post to which you replied merely said:
“ Quote whatever figures you want. It’s a fact that far more often than not, details grade coins sell for much less than straight grade ones.” And initially, you even wrote “ I don't disagree…”.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The ole 98 year old aunt trick .
Details at 4% of straight graded price?
I suppose stranger things have happened but I've never had a "buyer" who made a lowball offer end up buying anything, and I've never had one who wanted as big of a discount as the OP's buyer does.
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You are ignoring the market results! If details graded coins are bringing PCGS PG prices at auction. I would translate that into I'm offering my details coin somewhere around wholesale if Greysheet is wholesale! You know and I know the better problem free seated stuff is going for well over PCGS PG! I just paid almost double PCGS PG for a Seated Dollar and was happy to get it!
I would not reply after that. Personally, I would ignore the ebayer after that message with the $30 offer. Sounds like a guy that want to absolute rip that coin from you.
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That's why I block low ballers. $30 on a $700 coin is not a serious buyer. And then when you throw in the fake grandma/uncle/mother, they are just trying to score. I can't even count the number of low ball offers I've received that included either a cancer diagnosis or a relative with cancer.
What the heck - just consider the $30 a starting bid made in fun, make a serious counter offer and move on. I love all those low ball bids I see on GC that quickly disappear.
Countering is a waste of time. Do it or not- your choice. I just decline lowball offers.
Just block and ignore. Life is too short to waste it on fools.
Ignore and block. I made the mistake of engaging a lowballer yesterday. I should have taken my own advice!
That's right - he wants to give his 98 year old aunt lots of bargain coins that she'll remember for the rest of her life. 🤔
And then after that, she'll leave the collection to him. And he'll sell them on ebay for a lot more than what he lowballed them for.
If his strategy works be sure to send me your ebay ID.
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“I appreciate that you want to help your aunt, however I’m going to have to stay pretty firm on this coin”
I've seen quite a few auctions where 4% of the BIN price is all that the coin is worth. And I'll go ahead and offer them that price if I like the coin. Such bids, along with a brief note explaining the offer, also alert the seller that their asking price is ridiculous. There are a lot of overpriced, ETSY-style auctions on eBay.
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I would have responded: "Sure, i will accept $30 delivered. I accept American Gold and/or Silver Eagles. For example, a $25 half ouncer and a $5 tenth ouncer. Or, you can pay with two $5 Gold Eagles, and 20 one ounce Silver Eagles. The choice is yours. See how fair and easy I can be?"
... my aunt is really depending on me to collect old silver coins/bills for her collection. She's 98 years old, so I want the opportunity for her to have good memories of these items. I want to make her happy so I can be happy.
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Am I the only one who finds this part fascinating? I mean, if you were 98 years old, would you still collect coins if you are dependent upon others buying the coins for you? I would think that one would be more interested in the temperature of his or her evening pudding at that age.
And--in the same incredulous vein of bizarreness--when will his aunt start having "good memories of these items"? When she is 108? "He Bobby, remember way back 10 years ago when you chiseled that @amwldcoin guy down to $30 on eBay for this coin? Good times...good times. Heck, I bet he would have taken $20 if you kept pushing."
And finally this part: "I want to make her happy so I can be happy." That guy is not playing with a full deck of cards.
If you want to go a bit dark, come up with a slight discount from your list price and reply “well it sounds like your aunt may not have much time left, so you’ll have to act on this price quickly. The offer is good for 48 hours.”
That is not the same as offering $30 on a $700 coin.
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Tell him your own 98 year old aunt is depending on you to sell her coin collection for a fair price so she can afford to live to 99.
Usually any offer below 50% of my asking price gets declined with no counter offer. Not worth the effort.
And FWIW I sell lots of Seated coins that are in details holders or raw with “damage” for at wholesale or even full retail for the grade level. I also sell lots for 2-3 grade levels under. Depends on what the damage is. Couple small rim bumps on an otherwise original and wholesome coin May keep it out of a TPG holder but doesn’t bother a lot of seated collectors. Myself included. Especially if it’s a tough date.
But hey I sell on eBay so all my stuff is overpriced anyway.
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