How would PCGS grade this Peace dollar?
braddick
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If I were to send this one to PCGS, what would be their grade?
Here is the obverse:
Here is the reverse (yes, they're the same coin):
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Woah! How does that happen?
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Wow! That's pretty amazing! Must have been a pocket piece or something...
Maybe they would net grade it...?
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Cool! I'll go with 3.
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Possibly used like a "worry stone"? Hold it, rub your thumb on the obverse...
I have a similar dollar that i carry, though not quite as dirty.
I'm trying to thumb the obverse down to zero like the reverse.
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That's interesting! "worry stone" was my first inclination...
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Seeing this coin in one of the old holders with the split grade would be priceless.
is this a seam? also, is there one visible at the reeds?
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Good potential catch.
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thanks.
i do try to be positive but after looking at the history of the world and the world today, i figure if i'm not spotting something nefarious, then i'm missing something. (i think crypto/nft/p2e has seriously exacerbated it)
numismaticly speaking, all the new trolls members, my personal experience and the stuff burfle has posted has not done much to quench that perspective either. i can say one thing for absolutely certain, it is not boring.
Was it in a bezel?
Very interesting. I wonder if the reverse gives it a boost?
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It'll be interesting if that ends up being a split coin!
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In looking further into this, it does look like a seam, yet that seam appears to end and 'blend' into the coin (?).
Either way, it is cool, and if it ends up being two coins, the workmanship is pretty good, and I can't imagine why someone would go to that trouble.
It should be here in a few days!
I can make a further determination then.
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i thought you had the coin in-hand or i would have waited to make that post. looks like it from the image but probably isn't because of what you state, it looks to blend in pretty well and i haven't seen a seam yet that blends so, well, umm, seam-less-ly. ba dum tss
No problem.
I always value your opinions.
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That seam does make it look like it is two halves. Balance it on the tip of your finger and tap the edge with a pencil. If it sounds hollow, it could be what is popularly called an "opium dollar". When you squeeze the edge, it opens up with a hidden internal hinge. Or, if there is no hinge, you could also drop it on a wooden table to see if it pops open.
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The more I think about it; it's got to be a seam.
When there are multiple potential answers, I think of this:
How else could this Peace dollar have an AG obverse and an AU reverse?
It'll be fun to have this one arrive so I can scrutinize it and provide the experiments PerryHall suggests.
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After you finish both sides will you work on the edge reeding?
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I do not think that is a seam.... the rest of the reverse seems to show a fully struck field to rim surface. But it sure looks like one.... Be sure to let us know when you evaluate it in hand. Cheers, RickO
The “How would PCGS grade this Peace dollar?” was for the 1923 example in the opening post.
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if that doesn't work, try the technical process of balancing it in your dominant hand, squint your eyes (preferably the left one), bend your knees slightly, perhaps twist your right ankle just a bit and look for the closest yet hardest wall and throw it as hard as you can. ><
I’ve almost tried that technique with my cell phone a couple of times 😂🤣😂😎
It could be a die adjustment strike but it could also be mounted in a way that exposed the obv while protecting the Rev. Since the truth is lost to time i suspect it will Gen 98
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This.
I have removed a couple Peace dollars from old closed-back belt buckles. The contrast was not this great, but was significant.
One was a 1928 - discovered it had an S mintmark, unfortunately.
The reverse does not look AU to me - looks XF at best.
I have coins that have those seams in pics but not when you look in hand. Shadow or something. Let us know!!
calling @braddick - c'mon man, we're not built for this kind of suspense!
It sure is a beauty, should go full AG on a good day, maybe with a plus, if you run it through express or walkthrough.
I think they would grade it 96 no service...
How long did it take you to rub your coin down like that?
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after reviewing the image again, blown up, i think it is just grime/shadow.
I've always wondered how a coin like that would be treated in the grading room. I've heard of coins being passed around a felt table on the same side for several years eventually ending up like that. I think it would be used as some sort of token to keep track of whose turn it was in a card game. I've personally used my peace dollar pocket piece for that.
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