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PCGS Holder Question, I saw this and its claimed to be "Just Graded"

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 11, 2022 3:58PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Is this a NEW HOLDER that a newly graded coin would come back in??
In the past whenever I've seen these I thought of them to be a much older slab style?


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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The stacking corners don't look right for the new style.
    A newly graded holder would have a little band at the top of the label.
    I would have questions. ;)

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not that new. Gold shield includes the NFC tech, there would be an icon on the reverse label - this one is a few years old - and an NFC in the shell bottom left.

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  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    Would I be correct in saying the holder in the OP is a 2011-2012 Holder?

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2022 4:08PM

    yup

    edit to add: assuming it's a legit holder
    I'm no expert on holders.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    The stacking corners don't look right for the new style.
    A newly graded holder would have a little band at the top of the label.
    I would have questions. ;)

    Message sent ;)

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2022 4:10PM

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:
    yup

    edit to add: assuming it's a legit holder
    I'm no expert on holders.

    Thank you for the link ;)
    I'm going back now and look over the coin better, something isn't right with this one!

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The holder is from around 2010-2014.

    The coin and the holder appear genuine.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2022 5:02PM

    Not that it matters if you suspect foul play based on "just graded" claim, but the holder, if legit, appears to be a GEN 4.4S.

    Given the blue on the reverse side, it would be MAR 2010 - MAR 2011.

    For reference, here is the current holder (i.e., GEN 6.1S). PCGS began using this version in OCT 2020.

    Edited to add:
    The links are to the "PCGS Museum of Coin Holders", the same reference @JohnnyCache mentioned earlier in the thread.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:
    Not that it matters if you suspect foul play based on "just graded" claim, but the holder, if legit, appears to be a GEN 4.4S.

    Given the blue on the reverse side, it would be MAR 2010 - MAR 2011.

    For reference, here is the current holder (i.e., GEN 6.1S). PCGS began using this version in OCT 2020.

    Thanks for the link.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,389 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am no expert, but the solid gaskets are from older holders, prior to Gold Shield. Something is not right 🤔.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2022 5:26AM

    @oih82w8 said:
    I am no expert, but the solid gaskets are from older holders, prior to Gold Shield. Something is not right 🤔.

    I am no expert either.

    That said, GEN 4.4S is identified as "Gold Shield", and it pre-dates the introduction of the 'tri-view/prong' holder in GEN 4.5.

    IOW, I do not think that solid gasket + GS = 'deal breaker'.

    Reference

    Edited for clarity.

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