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Question about the NGC & CAC No Line Fatty Holders?

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 8, 2022 10:56AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I'm searching for a graded 1939 Proof Lincoln Cent and my question is if I buy one that's in one of the NGC&CAC fatty holders will it fit into my encap album sleeves?
The newer regular NGC holders has maybe 1/8" room on the sides, and the normal modern PCGS holders FIT with maybe 1/16" room.
I don't want to by a coin for my Lincoln collection that doesn't fit (can't be included) in the album.
So, what is the dimensions of these NGC & CAC No Line Fatty holder's?
Thanks!

"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2022 10:24AM

    I get
    Thickness: .43"
    Width: 2.31"
    Height: 3.31"
    Edited to add: For a no line fatty with gold NGC logo embossed on the back.

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If metric works better (had to replace the battery in my metric verniers)
    Thickness 10.8 mm
    Width 58.6 mm
    Height 84.04 mm

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "fatty" holders are NGC holders and CAC has nothing to do with that.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2022 10:54AM

    @MFeld said:
    The "fatty" holders are NGC holders and CAC has nothing to do with that.

    That's the kind of stuff I don't know about!
    I found a listing and it stated "NGC & CAC CERTIFIED"
    I had someone else look at it and they mentioned it being a No Line "FATTY" holder, to which I didn't (don't) know what that is either LoL!
    Its looks like in the other comments there is some measurements, I'm getting ready to leave now so I'll check back in on that later this evening.
    Thanks Mark (Again) ;)

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you’re not concerned about only getting a 1939 proof cent in a fatty holder, make sure that you get one with full details or nicer color no matter what plastic it’s in. Those are the ones that have been performing well in the market recently and are highly sought. Good luck!

    Coin Photographer.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MFeld said:
    The "fatty" holders are NGC holders and CAC has nothing to do with that.

    That's the kind of stuff I don't know about!
    I found a listing and it stated "NGC & CAC CERTIFIED"
    I had someone else look at it and they mentioned it being a No Line "FATTY" holder, to which I didn't (don't) know what that is either LoL!
    Its looks like in the other comments there is some measurements, I'm getting ready to leave now so I'll check back in on that later this evening.
    Thanks Mark (Again) ;)

    CAC affixes its stickers to coins in NGC and PCGS holders, if they feel the coins are solid or high end for the assigned grade. Since CAC doesn’t encapsulate coins, there’s no such thing as a CAC holder.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    If metric works better (had to replace the battery in my metric verniers)
    Thickness 10.8 mm
    Width 58.6 mm
    Height 84.04 mm

    My dial calipers will do either, so metric is fine.
    Okay, I just measured a pretty newNGC holder and this is what came from that,
    Thickness = 10.10
    width = 60.64
    Height = 85.95
    So, now I have to ask (seeing how they're not really any larger) what is it about them that they've earned the nick name "Fatty"?
    Inquiring minds what to know :D

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MFeld said:
    The "fatty" holders are NGC holders and CAC has nothing to do with that.

    That's the kind of stuff I don't know about!
    I found a listing and it stated "NGC & CAC CERTIFIED"
    I had someone else look at it and they mentioned it being a No Line "FATTY" holder, to which I didn't (don't) know what that is either LoL!
    Its looks like in the other comments there is some measurements, I'm getting ready to leave now so I'll check back in on that later this evening.
    Thanks Mark (Again) ;)

    CAC affixes its stickers to coins in NGC and PCGS holders, if they feel the coins are solid or high end for the assigned grade. Since CAC doesn’t encapsulate coins, there’s no such thing as a CAC holder.

    So, while your here >:) lets say the coin is a 1939 Proof Lincoln Cent, the NGC grade is PF64RD and its CAC certified as well, in a "Fatty holder. Does the added CAC labeling increase its collect-ability, (make it more valuable) than just the NGC grade alone?
    I mean I'd hate to pay $150.00 plus for it, if its really only a $80.00 coin. I'd take a PF62RB grade for my purpose.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 8, 2022 11:58PM

    @56morgan said:
    Yes , early and late no line fatty NGC 2.0. 2.1. 3.0 slabs fit nicely into the Leuchtturm Lighthouse encap pages.

    Very nice! that'll work for me!
    Thanks!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @MarkW63 said:

    @MFeld said:
    The "fatty" holders are NGC holders and CAC has nothing to do with that.

    That's the kind of stuff I don't know about!
    I found a listing and it stated "NGC & CAC CERTIFIED"
    I had someone else look at it and they mentioned it being a No Line "FATTY" holder, to which I didn't (don't) know what that is either LoL!
    Its looks like in the other comments there is some measurements, I'm getting ready to leave now so I'll check back in on that later this evening.
    Thanks Mark (Again) ;)

    CAC affixes its stickers to coins in NGC and PCGS holders, if they feel the coins are solid or high end for the assigned grade. Since CAC doesn’t encapsulate coins, there’s no such thing as a CAC holder.

    So, while your here >:) lets say the coin is a 1939 Proof Lincoln Cent, the NGC grade is PF64RD and its CAC certified as well, in a "Fatty holder. Does the added CAC labeling increase its collect-ability, (make it more valuable) than just the NGC grade alone?
    I mean I'd hate to pay $150.00 plus for it, if its really only a $80.00 coin. I'd take a PF62RB grade for my purpose.

    Read up on CAC - there’s plenty written about it.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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