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Interesting EBAY shenanigans
sjjs28
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Repeating my morning ritual of following up on my EBAY Searches I noticed several followed/wanted cards were caught by my search parameters.... Actually TWO identical interesting cards were caught by my searches, What are the odds that 2 1957 Topps Mickey Mantle's PSA 8.5 would be auctioned off on EBAY the same day? Long - I agree.
Here's the interesting part - its the same card, auctioned by different sellers [ledfirstchoiceltd and classiccover]
I check further and there are multiple example of duplicate postings!
So who actually has the card?? And, which winner will actually get the card?? (I'm betting neither winner sees anything!)
Steve Saldutti
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Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
sjjs28@comcast.net
Collector of 1964 Topps Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game and 1969 Topps Decals
Registered Sets: 1964 Stand Ups, 1965 Embossed, 1968 Topps Game, 1969 Topps Decals
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There's been hundreds of fake listings lately with mahomes rookie cards.
And I think last night they were with that first seller you mentioned, maybe a hijacked account?
Its been happening with Mahomes cards for at least several weeks, they are sometimes stealing
the card photos from probstein and other legitimate sellers.
On the Mahomes cards here is the message that is found on the item description...
PLEASE NO TIME WASTERS, WE ONLY SELL AT THIS PRICE!!! PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT US IF YOU
DON'T WISH TO BUY!!! PLEASE CHECKOUT THE PICTURES AND CONTACT US!!!
WE ACCEPT FAST SALE FOR THIS ITEM AT THE PRICE OF: 10080 USD
Of course they vary the price they are asking depending on the card. They are in auction format
then they demand a certain price.
When the eBay/CSG authentication process encompass graded cards above $250 will this type of scam be eliminated?
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Plus if you bid on any of the items listed by at least 3 of these different sellers currently on eBay and then go and check your current bid status on all your items it will not show up !!!! But if you happen to get outbid you will receive an email stating you were outbid , This happened a few weeks back also with hundreds of items high price items ..
Any idea why?
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Not at all, the seller has no card to send, so the authentication process is moot, as they are soliciting sales outside of eBay.
No clue why, there is a thread on this format from last week or so that was discussing this same issue with different sellers . 2 topps 1975 bb cello boxes currently on eBay now by these sellers
I think they are cancelling all the bids, as they clearly state in their write up that no bids are accepted, only off eBay buy it nows.
The way this scam works is simple. Some sucker buyer contacts the seller at the contact information included in one of the pictures, gets a "discount", sends Paypal F&F for further "discount", no card arrives, seller absconds with the $$$
Thousands of fraudulent listings with pirated images. Avoid like the plague.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I would hope that as soon as a listing specifying that an item is only available for sale outside of eBay is reported that the seller's account would be terminated immediately since this in clearly in violation of eBay seller policies. eBay makes no money when a listing is cancelled and the sale occurs outside their system.
Thanks. I don't look at auctions for Modern Cards, so have never seen listing like that.
Only has to work once for it to be a success and sadly I bet it has.
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They are no longer on there but my guess is one ended in 502 and the other in 594. Those two cards have changed hands a bunch of times with legit sale. Can’t understand why people keep buying them and flipping them. Maybe they think they will get a 9 and when it does not bump they move them.
KC
In this case, al of the cards/boxes/cases etc are not in hand. The images are stolen from past ebay auctions and the internet.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Correct Tim. None are legit and in the hands of the owners. eBay should ban people from their platform who engage in these activities.
KC
They have been doing this for a while now. $1 stating bids. Sign on left of auction clearly directs buyer away off ebay.
They state no bids as they have no intention of selling (what they don't have). Hundreds of ebay id's. They stay on for a short while until ebay shuts them down.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
If you have a burner eBay account, why not? As someone above pointed out, all it takes is one greedy and imprudent buyer.
The interesting part here though is these seller accounts are long tenured accounts with significant feedback history, including recent feedback, too, so not sure what's going on., as you'd expect a dormant FB history for a hijacked account.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Long Con?
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Why? Isn't it just as easy to hijack an active account? It's not as though the "seller" needs to accept the managed payments. All he has to do is cancel any bids that are foolish enough to be placed, if that. It's probably easier to hide a dozen phony listings in those of a seller who has hundreds than one who hasn't used the account in years.
I'd think it would be more difficult to hijack an active account..if someone commandeered my ebay account, even though I rarely sell on ebay, I'd notice it immediately.
We're not talking a dozen phony listings here; we're talking thousands.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Or precisely because you rarely sell. Last time I sold on eBay I got a check in the mail, but when does eBay send you messages? If only when your items sell, that would never happen with these accounts. If it is, say, five messages per item, then are you likely to notice 60 emails among 3500 legit ones that don't require action? And if the account owner notices, so what? You were going to move on soon anyway.
Tens of thousands total or from one account?
It was two accounts; I forgot the exact figure but it was easily thousands of fraudulent listings using pirated images from previous auctions. I want to say upwards of 50K listings, all of which at first glance were fraudulent. There's absolutely no way this could happen without a seller noticing unless they passed away or went away for an extended period of time with no internet access.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
All 50K+ listings that were up last night have now been taken down by ebay but I expect we will see them pop up again soon enough.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have been following this.
way more than 2 accounts
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
This is about the 20th account over the past 3 months that has been hacked with these same listings. The goal is pretty simple for the hacker... prey on hobbyists who ignore all signs of fraud just to get what they perceive will be a great deal.
There is a reason why resealed vintage packs have been so prevalent for so long on eBay and it is not because of the fraudulent lister but mainly because of the buyers that continue to throw money at these listers.
Yes, I can't figure this out at all. How would you not notice this if you had an active account??? This stuff seems to be happening a ton. Very disturbing to say the least.
I am pretty sure you would be able to notice a phony listing on your account. Every time I create a new listing and it goes live, I receive an email from eBay notifying me that the listing went live. The only time I don't get an email if the new listing was a scheduled listing.
Interesting, because I don't get emails like that. I assume you can manipulate your notifications, so it is possible to not get such an email.
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If a deal is too good and not covered by ebay protection, walk away. Too many folks want to buy premium stuff on the cheap so this scam shall continue.
Not all but most cons require the victim to have some level greed to be successful.
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SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!!
THE WORST PART IS THAT THEY HAVE GREAT FEEDBACK !!!
AND WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS ?!!!
HACKED !!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
Sadly, many people have turned from collectors to addicts. 99% of anybody can see the guy with 15 Hank Aaron rookies listed with all sorts of scans and pictures are not legit listings; but addicts can't see it that way. Pulling guns outside of Target/Walmart because packs were no longer available.....etc. Just bizarre to say the least. Scams will always work when addicts are involved. The amount of fraud and greed is creating a really bad atmosphere for the hobby right now.
I have a question about a different type of eBay (possible) shenanigan: when a listing has photos but the zoom function is disabled, is that a sign of a dealer's dishonesty, or is it some bug? This happens to me regularly, that I can't get a good look at an item. I've not noticed an option for disabling zoom when listing, but perhaps that's a hidden option somewhere? Needless to say, if I can't zoom in I'm not buying, since who knows what defects might be hidden?
(Not to hijack the thread, but this isn't worth a separate thread, and I suspect that the main points about the original issue have all been made.)
Some sellers are using the same listing platform for the last 20 years. They click sell similar and it was before the zoom feature......BUT yes some are just not wanting you to see the item up too close.
I thought it was due to their image not being hi-res enough? I'm trying to think when I list something, I don't recall checking or unchecking a box for zoom. Just my own theory, I have no facts backing that up.
This is the correct answer. Zoom is only available if the image exceeds a certain resolution threshold
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
If you're really interested, ask for close-ups, if not, walk away. I wouldn't assume nefarious intent, just speed or incompetence.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144434790183?hash=item21a0fbff27:g:-E8AAOSwVzVhcdUV
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144434791728?hash=item21a0fc0530:g:AHsAAOSws~9g88e2
Based on the 30K feedback and 18 year ebay member does appear to be a "hacked" account
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Here is another hijacked eBay account
I https://www.ebay.com/sch/Sports-Mem-Cards-Fan-Shop/64482/m.html?item=165357931081&_ssn=bmc.london&_sac=1&_sop=12
lot of big sellers using weak password it seems???
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Seems so