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Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
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Do Fugio cents (e.g. 1787 Fugio 1C United States, 4 Cinq, BN coin # 889) and Kentucy Tokens (e.g. 1790s Token Kentucky, Lancaster Edge, BN coin # 623) get submitted as coins (as opposed to tokens)? I would like to submit a 1916 half dollar, a 1931-S cent, and these two items.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From what I can tell:

    ~ PCGS #889 is a coin.
    Auction Reference; Associated Cert Verification
    Note the "1C" denomination.

    ~ PCGS #623 is a token.
    Auction Reference; Associated Cert Verification
    Note the "Token" denomination.

    If you want to confirm prior to submission, I suggest calling customer service (i.e., 800-447-8848).

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭

    "Note the "1C" denomination." This is more convention than reality, Fugio "Cents" are actually Fugio Coppers.

    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 20, 2022 5:49AM

    @Steve27 said:
    [...] This is more convention than reality, Fugio "Cents" are actually Fugio Coppers.

    Thanks for the info. I learned something. :)

    Your position 'matches' the auction information from Legend. Namely:
    "The Fugio copper is one of the first officially authorized coins struck for circulation in the young United States. Congress awarded a coinage contract to James Jarvis, and he was to strike up to 300 tons worth of copper into these coppers (sometimes referred to as Cents). It is estimated that some 400,000 were struck, far short of the millions anticipated."
    Source

    My original point was that it did not say "token" in the denomination field of the cert verification. That means that it differs from the PCGS #623 cert verification. Hence the coin conclusion, which I believe is still valid.

    Nice items. Best of luck with your submission.

    Edited for clarity.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steve27

    Had to call PCGS this morning. Wanted to see if I had dispensed accurate advice, so I asked about your two items (i.e., coin vs. token).

    The rep I spoke with said that:
    ~ #889 was a coin;
    ~ #623 was a token.

    Again, I wish you luck with your submission. :)

  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the info; however, that seems really bizarre. I would have expected anything with a "coin number" could be submitted with other coins.

    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steve27

    It appears that PCGS assigns numbers to the tokens and medals that they grade.

    ~ Token Example: PCGS #705642; Associated Cert Verification
    ~ Medal Example: Mint Item #S804; PCGS #755405; Associated Cert Verification

    Here is a "list" of tokens and medals that PCGS currently accepts.

    Admittedly, I do not have a great deal of experience with submitting tokens and medals. That said, it appears that your token will require its own submission form (i.e., "Service Level" = "Special Issue" or "Economy Special Issue", based on the declared value).

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