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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw this the other day, forgot to mention it. Thanks for bringing it up!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:
    I saw this the other day, forgot to mention it. Thanks for bringing it up!

    If this gets legs and more damning information comes out that the NFL unjustly punished Brady and the Pats I wonder how many of the haters that were talking crap with realize they were full of crap?

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw this just the other day. i knew it was phoey when i first heard of the "deflated" footballs back when it happened.

    about time those haters eat some crow!

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm so glad this has come to light! The cabal, IMO, were complicit in falsely accusing Brady etal of cheating by having a football deflated. There is MUCH to read by either using Google or DuckDuckGO, just use "deflategate". Brady banished for 4 games, and the Pats fined $1m. Why didn't Kraft challenge the verdict by that bozo of a Commissioner??

    Deflategate Gillette Stadium, 1/18/15

    First qtr 14-0 Pats
    Second qtr 17-7 Pats
    THIRD QTR 21-0
    FOURTH QTR 7-0 Pats

    Final score 45-7 Pats
    The Pats, even without Brady, went on to win the Super Bowl that year.

    NOTE...After the "discovery" of a supposed microscopic amount of air out of a football, and then all were checked to then be inflated to standards, this done at half-time. How then could Brady score 28 points in the second half ? Where was the advantage he supposedly attained?

    I vividly recall being at a local social event around this time. The Hostess wasn't really involved in the discussion, just a couple of guys, when she jumped in and said "I hate Tom Brady, he's such a cheater, I just hate him". She, who had not a remote clue about football (she's from Canada), drank the kool aid of nonsense as many other did. Such a moron!!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That second part about the NFL not releasing the 2015 field study results to the public has been pretty obvious since the tests were done. I know that I've mentioned on numerous occasions here since then that all of New England has been waiting to hear those numbers and that the NFL has purposely not made them public to save face.

    It's good to see that some names high up in the league have been made public with these excerpts from the upcoming book but I doubt this changes anything other than Pats Nation feeling vindicated after defending Tom like we did. Tom might feel vindicated to a point but with him retired this news probably doesn't change much for him or his reputation. Most fans either consider him the G.O.A.T. already or those who don't probably won't change their opinion of him with this all coming out now.

    As for the Pats organization, I doubt this does anything for Kraft or Belichick after they both left Tom high & dry out in the wind when all of that went down. Maybe Kraft grows a pair and calls out all involved in the league office in an attempt to get back his forfeited 1st round pick plus his fine of 1M. I doubt it happens but it would probably be pretty entertaining seeing him try.

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,715 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke said:
    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

    Personally I do because of all the piling on by all the haters screaming about them cheating and other nonsense over point whatever PSI. It was a witch hunt and those responsible need to be called out over it.

    I don’t expect the haters to change their opinions or take anything back
    On this but at least they will know it was nonsense

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @spacehayduke said:
    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

    Personally I do because of all the piling on by all the haters screaming about them cheating and other nonsense over point whatever PSI. It was a witch hunt and those responsible need to be called out over it.

    I don’t expect the haters to change their opinions or take anything back
    On this but at least they will know it was nonsense

    Just jealousy. In this world we live anyone that’s great or anything great must be knocked down to make the morons feel better about themselves. In a world of Karens and Mrs Cravetts with nothing better to do than find fault in others because their lives suck.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:

    @perkdog said:

    @spacehayduke said:
    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

    Personally I do because of all the piling on by all the haters screaming about them cheating and other nonsense over point whatever PSI. It was a witch hunt and those responsible need to be called out over it.

    I don’t expect the haters to change their opinions or take anything back
    On this but at least they will know it was nonsense

    Just jealousy. In this world we live anyone that’s great or anything great must be knocked down to make the morons feel better about themselves. In a world of Karens and Mrs Cravetts with nothing better to do than find fault in others because their lives suck.

    Yep. If you look back on my posts nearly every time someone ran their mouth against the Pats over deflate gate I stated they were jealous of their success.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @2dueces said:

    @perkdog said:

    @spacehayduke said:
    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

    Personally I do because of all the piling on by all the haters screaming about them cheating and other nonsense over point whatever PSI. It was a witch hunt and those responsible need to be called out over it.

    I don’t expect the haters to change their opinions or take anything back
    On this but at least they will know it was nonsense

    Just jealousy. In this world we live anyone that’s great or anything great must be knocked down to make the morons feel better about themselves. In a world of Karens and Mrs Cravetts with nothing better to do than find fault in others because their lives suck.

    Yep. If you look back on my posts nearly every time someone ran their mouth against the Pats over deflate gate I stated they were jealous of their success.

    .....
    I was not here during that time. How was the reaction on the forum?

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:

    @2dueces said:

    @perkdog said:

    @spacehayduke said:
    Who cares? Brady is GOAT, none of this matters either way. He has lived the dream and moved on.

    Personally I do because of all the piling on by all the haters screaming about them cheating and other nonsense over point whatever PSI. It was a witch hunt and those responsible need to be called out over it.

    I don’t expect the haters to change their opinions or take anything back
    On this but at least they will know it was nonsense

    Just jealousy. In this world we live anyone that’s great or anything great must be knocked down to make the morons feel better about themselves. In a world of Karens and Mrs Cravetts with nothing better to do than find fault in others because their lives suck.

    Yep. If you look back on my posts nearly every time someone ran their mouth against the Pats over deflate gate I stated they were jealous of their success.

    .....
    I was not here during that time. How was the reaction on the forum?

    Non Patriots fans and Haters were relentless calling them “Cheaters” and saying they couldn’t win without cheating.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No one is changing their minds. We live in an era where no one seems to change their mind regardless of facts. They just seem to dig their heels in further and double down

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  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you need proof that the whole thing was nonsense, just remember that Tom Brady wasn't punished for Deflategate. He was punished for not handing over his phone.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:
    If you need proof that the whole thing was nonsense, just remember that Tom Brady wasn't punished for Deflategate. He was punished for not handing over his phone.

    It was a witch hunt.

    That’s the bottom line

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Tabe said:
    If you need proof that the whole thing was nonsense, just remember that Tom Brady wasn't punished for Deflategate. He was punished for not handing over his phone.

    It was a witch hunt.

    That’s the bottom line

    Tom Brady was the best thing that ever happened to the NFL in the past 20 years. The Patriots ( no offense perk ) were a team going nowhere with fans only in the New England area. That changed with Tom. They have ardent fans all over North America buying a $$$ of Patriots memorabilia. Of course along with the ardent fans, fame and popularity comes haters. But in the long run Brady will always be the GOAT and his detractors will be cast away by the wayside.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Tabe said:
    If you need proof that the whole thing was nonsense, just remember that Tom Brady wasn't punished for Deflategate. He was punished for not handing over his phone.

    It was a witch hunt.

    That’s the bottom line

    Tom Brady was the best thing that ever happened to the NFL in the past 20 years. The Patriots ( no offense perk ) were a team going nowhere with fans only in the New England area. That changed with Tom. They have ardent fans all over North America buying a $$$ of Patriots memorabilia. Of course along with the ardent fans, fame and popularity comes haters. But in the long run Brady will always be the GOAT and his detractors will be cast away by the wayside.

    I agree with you, believe me Joe, I remember the pre Brady days.

    We got a lot of excitement once Parcells and Bledsoe came to town but everything took off after Hoodie and Brady as we all
    Know.

    But the Tommy Hodgson and Dark McPherson type days were awful and we were an utter mess for awhile.

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