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HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

Well, after Bakers first play from scrimmage tonight on second possession, if he doesn't turn it around quick........real quick...... I predict that he will be Staffords backup next year......they all in up in L.A......sooner or later.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 picks 1st quarter 🤷‍♂️

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Baker just threw a pick and the Browns were in field goal range.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He threw the first one up and literally threw up on the second one. Terrible pass when Landry couldn’t have been any more wide open

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 2:17PM

    Keets.....got any whiskey in the house?......you might be needing a belt or two after that first quarter!.......Oh, GAWD!.....

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 2:24PM

    The Packers just cashed in on that Mayfield interception, it's 14-6.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If

    Do they go for 2?

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  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Browns right down the field for a touchdown, 2 pt conversion no good, it's 14-12 Packers lead. I wish Aaron Rodgers would get that hair trimmed, he's very shaggy in the back.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Didn’t think they’d get the 2 but they had to try

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone for GB gets a pick for Christmas!

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 3:32PM

    Play before 2 minute warning....3rd and 16.......Baker connects.....I would have NEVER called that play.....run the ball!.....oh, well.....go Browns!

    P.S......just went back into the TV room....ANOTHER INTERCEPTION!!!!!...... HELP......!!!

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's 24-12, the Browns need to score a touchdown on this drive, they can't afford to settle for a field goal here, not against Rodgers.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They sacked Mayfield again, the Browns have to settle for a field goal, not good.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Browns get a much needed stop.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Baker was lucky that ball wasn't picked off, he nearly threw his 4th interception.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Browns are just killing themselves with these false start penalties, just a complete lack of concentration.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Touchdown Browns, it's 24-22 Packers lead with 4:31 to go in the game.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 4:15PM

    Man, what the heck has happened to the Packers offense? The Browns get another stop, they're going to get a chance to win this game, here we go!

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Omg

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    considering the three Int's it's remarkable that the Browns are in the game right now. not complaining, but they sure haven't had any help from the Officials, just some really, really bad non-calls.

    I said after the first Int that to have a CHANCE to win the Browns can't make mistakes, now they have a chance to win it. hold on for the finish!!!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Browns get a FG then Rodgers brings them back for a GW FG.

    Made for TV NFL!!!

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Potentially Pick #4 or Rookie Kicker misses FG too 🤷‍♂️

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 4:23PM

    Baker Mayfield just threw a pick, game over, Packers win 24-22.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 4:27PM

    go ahead and rag on Mayfield but just don't overlook that non-call on the holding, even the announcers are calling it.

    screw the Officials and screw the NFL, they know who they want to win. that was terrible!!

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Browns are just killing themselves with these false start penalties, just a complete lack of concentration

    the Browns aren't the ones who need to concentrate, the Officials should try paying attention. one of those killing false starts was clearly offsides on the defensive end, but why call that??

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 4:44PM

    @keets said:
    go ahead and rag on Mayfield but just don't overlook that non-call on the holding, even the announcers are calling it.

    screw the Officials and screw the NFL, they know who they want to win. that was terrible!!

    ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!! The Lovely Mrs. Hydrant knows more about football than all us brainiacs put together. During the entire game she kept saying, "They are not calling penalties on the packers."....... over, and over and over she said that. It came down to that.
    Keets is absolutely correct. Win or lose.....Baker bad or not......that NON CALL on defensive interference SUCKED!

    And....I agree....screw the Officials and screw the NFL, they know who they want to win........I figured it out last season (FINALLY!) because of the Bills win over the Rams........IT'S FIXED.

    O.k., I'm on a rant.....DD has a thread up something about why people don't like the Cowboys.......why????.... you just saw the reason why if you watched the Browns/Packers.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 4:46PM

    the no-call was horrific

    but the key is playing better for the first 58 minutes so you won't be put in a position for the refs to screw you when the game is on the line. if he doesn't previously make multiple ill-advised throws, it never would have come to that

    bottom line is that the Cleveland Browns minus Baker Mayfield absolutely deserved to win that game

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 5:00PM

    @perkdog said:
    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

    I didn't have a dog in that fight.......Either way the officiating in that game was bad. AND......Mayfield is lucky he didn't have SIX picks! It doesn't matter. The Browns got robbed.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Winding your way down on Baker Mayfield's street
    light in his head and dead on his feet
    well, a crazy 4 pick day
    He'll drink the night away
    and forget about everything

    Another year and then you'd be happy
    just one more year and then you'd be happy
    but you're crying, you're crying now

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @perkdog said:
    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

    I didn't have a dog in that fight.......Either way the officiating in that game was bad. AND......Mayfield is lucky he didn't have SIX picks! It doesn't matter. The Browns got robbed.

    They got robbed by their own because Mayfield threw 4 picks. That’s the bottom line.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hard to win any game when your quarterback throws 4 interceptions. You want a game summary, here you go.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don’t worry though, Emily Mayfield will be tweeting out support for her husband in no time. The question is will she be piling on the refs? or her husband’s teammates?

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

    Two of them directly resulted from uncalled penalties.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2021 8:43PM

    Baker Mayfield threw 4 interceptions. He's lucky that he didn't throw 6. He stunk the joint out. He had a terrible game. Maybe he's no good. I don't care one way or the other. I don't care about the Browns. If they never win another game ever and I don't care.........Bottom line.....the Browns got robbed tonight.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Baker Mayfield is NOT the totality of the Cleveland Browns. There are other players on that team....lots of them. It's NOT just about the quarterback! It never has been, it isn't now, and it never will be.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fascinating fact about last night's quarterback comparison:

    Aaron Rodgers: 4 interceptions this SEASON.

    Baker Mayfield: 4 interceptions in ONE GAME.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Browns DB John Johnson III was injured and didn't play last night, but he tweeted this at halftime of last night's game after watching Baker.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Run the Damn Ball" had less to do with Baker Mayfield and more to do with Kevin Stefanski. that is to say, the choice to run or pass shouldn't have been predicated on how the QB was doing, it should have been a decision based on how the running game was doing. to that end, the Browns last night seemed to be able to run at will against Green Bay. the adage in the NFL is generally keep doing what works until the opponent figures out how to stop you....................unless you happen to be the Cleveland Browns and current play caller, Kevin Stefanski.

    to my way of thinking, the off-season decisions the Browns face have less to do with Baker Mayfield and more to do with who should be calling the plays. I am not tuned in to getting rid of Mayfield or Stefanski, I feel they are both good at what they do. I have seen this type of situation before, a QB with a skill set that isn't properly used and a Head Coach who stubbornly refuses to admit he might be in over his head and needs to delegate certain things to other people. this has been my opinion for the better part of this season.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @perkdog said:
    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

    Two of them directly resulted from uncalled penalties.

    Ok so we will give him two for free. How about him over throwing his wide open receivers multiple times, also a few that were completed to wide open receivers were still jump to catch balls, that in itself takes away the ability for the receivers to catch and run. It costs them yards time after time. I like Baker and know I’m killing him after watching that game because I can’t stand Rodgers and wanted the Browns to win. Regardless of penalties being “Unfair” the Browns gave that game away.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Tabe said:

    @perkdog said:
    Blaming a loss on the refs when their QB throws 4 picks? Am I reading this correctly?

    Two of them directly resulted from uncalled penalties.

    Ok so we will give him two for free. How about him over throwing his wide open receivers multiple times, also a few that were completed to wide open receivers were still jump to catch balls, that in itself takes away the ability for the receivers to catch and run. It costs them yards time after time. I like Baker and know I’m killing him after watching that game because I can’t stand Rodgers and wanted the Browns to win. Regardless of penalties being “Unfair” the Browns gave that game away.

    Baker also had one throw right to a Green bay defender that hit him in the chest and he dropped it.
    He got lucky on that one. Baker was just off, like you said he missed a lot of receivers. I remember several
    throws with the receiver breaking to Mayfield's right he either led him too far or threw it too far inside.
    But he just came off the covid list and missed a lot of practice time so I guess he couldn't be expected to be perfect.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is just a guess but I'm thinking Baker probably has a dream about buying some land,
    maybe settle down in a quiet little town and forget about everything. To me it just seems like
    this winter he might find out that Cleveland just feels so cold, I know its got a lot of people
    but its got no soul, and its taken Baker so long to find out he was wrong when he thought it held everything.
    I think Baker is always going to keep moving because he's a rolling stone.

    I could be wrong but those are just my thoughts.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2021 7:31AM

    Baker had a bad game with regard to the interceptions, no argument about that. the replay you need to watch is up at ESPN, the final one. the defender grabs the receiver's jersey and actually pulls him backwards, runs past him and intercepts the pass. that single play decided the game.

    not one word is said about it during the clip and not one ESPN commentator had a word to say about it. note the legs of the Official at the top of the screen, he is clearly in a position to be looking directly at the defender's outstretched arm and the receivers jersey.

    here's a link to the play.
    https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1474904962031398916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1474904962031398916%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwkyc.com%2Farticle%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fbrowns%2Fbrowns-packers-no-call-pass-intereference%2F95-6ac59e7b-d97e-49cc-90a3-dcddbcb51aae

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    This is just a guess but I'm thinking Baker probably has a dream about buying some land,
    maybe settle down in a quiet little town and forget about everything. To me it just seems like
    this winter he might find out that Cleveland just feels so cold, I know its got a lot of people
    but its got no soul, and its taken Baker so long to find out he was wrong when he thought it held everything.
    I think Baker is always going to keep moving because he's a rolling stone.

    I could be wrong but those are just my thoughts.

    First of all I think the expectations of the Browns was a lot on Mayfield at the start of the season. It comes with the territory of being a first round pick so there is that but let’s say it the way it is that the Defense and running game is legit so the play calling is definitely suspect at best, these guys need to slow the game down and punch Opposing teams in the mouth with a steady diet of Chubb and Hunt when he is healthy, Mayfield throwing 15-20 times is a safe bet if he can get on the same page with his receivers when they are open. Making terrible throws shoots them in the foot like last night. Honestly I can’t see a better situation for Mayfield since like I said they have the stout D and tough running game.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The right move is to let him play out his option year, then franchise tag him.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2021 9:29AM

    even if Cleveland wanted to get rid of him, and I don't think they do, it'll be hard. the last I heard Mayfield is set for three separate surgeries to fix the injuries he's sustained this season, left shoulder, left foot and right knee. he really made three bad throws last night, but two of them had uncalled penalties and on the third the receiver fell down.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2021 9:35AM

    Let’s put Baker Mayfield talk in simple words.
    Number One Draft choice overall

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  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not ready to change QB yet. Unless they can trade straight up for Rodgers. BTW the Browns are not yet out of it.

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  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Darin said:
    This is just a guess but I'm thinking Baker probably has a dream about buying some land,
    maybe settle down in a quiet little town and forget about everything. To me it just seems like
    this winter he might find out that Cleveland just feels so cold, I know its got a lot of people
    but its got no soul, and its taken Baker so long to find out he was wrong when he thought it held everything.
    I think Baker is always going to keep moving because he's a rolling stone.

    I could be wrong but those are just my thoughts.

    First of all I think the expectations of the Browns was a lot on Mayfield at the start of the season. It comes with the territory of being a first round pick so there is that but let’s say it the way it is that the Defense and running game is legit so the play calling is definitely suspect at best, these guys need to slow the game down and punch Opposing teams in the mouth with a steady diet of Chubb and Hunt when he is healthy, Mayfield throwing 15-20 times is a safe bet if he can get on the same page with his receivers when they are open. Making terrible throws shoots them in the foot like last night. Honestly I can’t see a better situation for Mayfield since like I said they have the stout D and tough running game.

    perkdog, thanks you made my day. :p
    My goal with that post was pretty much to get a serious response to it.
    Its all from the song 'Baker street' by Gerry Raferty.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @perkdog said:

    @Darin said:
    This is just a guess but I'm thinking Baker probably has a dream about buying some land,
    maybe settle down in a quiet little town and forget about everything. To me it just seems like
    this winter he might find out that Cleveland just feels so cold, I know its got a lot of people
    but its got no soul, and its taken Baker so long to find out he was wrong when he thought it held everything.
    I think Baker is always going to keep moving because he's a rolling stone.

    I could be wrong but those are just my thoughts.

    First of all I think the expectations of the Browns was a lot on Mayfield at the start of the season. It comes with the territory of being a first round pick so there is that but let’s say it the way it is that the Defense and running game is legit so the play calling is definitely suspect at best, these guys need to slow the game down and punch Opposing teams in the mouth with a steady diet of Chubb and Hunt when he is healthy, Mayfield throwing 15-20 times is a safe bet if he can get on the same page with his receivers when they are open. Making terrible throws shoots them in the foot like last night. Honestly I can’t see a better situation for Mayfield since like I said they have the stout D and tough running game.

    perkdog, thanks you made my day. :p
    My goal with that post was pretty much to get a serious response to it.
    Its all from the song 'Baker street' by Gerry Raferty.

    Haha I figured it was from a song but had no idea which one, I will look that tune up now so thank you!

    Aldo part of your post warranted a response, I actually feel bad for Baker, the kid really wants to be great and gives it his all.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Lovely Mrs. Hydrant thinks that Baker's main focus is on making television commercials........I agree.

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